Talk:Robert J. Parins/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 00:54, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Not much to do here. See the clipping management suggestions for tips to use here and in other pages. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:01, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Copy changes

• early Packers' players Should not be a possessive.
• "a Circuit Court judge" perhaps this should be lowercase
• "Parins' served"
  • No need for the apostrophe/possessive here.
  • But where you do need it, Parins's per MOS:'S. This needs some adjustment in other areas.
• He also handled over 1000 mediation or arbitration cases, before retiring from his legal career at the age of 88. Make "1,000" with a comma and remove the comma after "cases".
• The officers escorted Sinthasomphone back inside Dahmer's apartment where he convinced Add comma after "apartment"
• In 1994, Parins ruled that though Add a comma after "that" to complete the appositive.
• with Parins decision Here, you do need a possessive: Parins's decision.
• Two year later, in 1981, Maybe just "Two years later" (note the missing S in the original)
• presidency, but still retained Remove comma. The subject on both sides is Parins. See User:Sammi Brie/Commas in sentences (CinS)
• The Packers also constructed their first indoor practice facility and expanded its administrative offices Their or its? They should be the same. Also, "also" in two consecutive sentences should be avoided (it's in the next one...also).
• Parins' was also credited... No need for the apostrophe/possessive here.

Spot checks

• 4: 1982 article in the Press-Gazette. Mentions his former law firm (until 1967). Other citations from the period I found do concur with the obit about the scope of the 14th Judicial Circuit. Y
• 5: Mentions his status and ruling in brief. The two appeals were assigned to Judge Robert J. Parins, Reserve Circuit Judge. On the statutory appeal, decided in May 1994, Judge Parins found the penalty of discharge was unreasonable because the evidence before the Board showed merely negligent failure to properly investigate. Y
• 7: See [5] (and the NYT article). Y
• 8: a reported missing person, Konerak Sinthasomphone Y
• 15: Judge Robert J. Parins, vice president of the Green Bay Packers, was given significant additional duties today in the first major change in the National Football League club's corporate structure in nearly 25 years. Parins, who held an informal press conference at Lambeau Field shortly after a meeting of the board of directors, said the board adopted a resolution authorizing him to perform all of the duties and responsibilities of the principal executive officer of the corporation. Dominic Olejniczak, Packer president the last 24 years, was named to a new post of chairman of the board. Parins said Olejniczak will continue to serve as presiding officer of the executive committee and perform the functions as president. A bit of an odd one. Is the "principal executive officer" the president? The wording is a bit strange here—I suspect you will know way more. This seems like it could be right, but I want you to justify it.

Earwig mostly catches the Packers bio but to banal phrases like "He graduated from Green Bay East High School in 1936". No issues.

 Done, I think I got all of these. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Tips on Newspapers.com citation management

I wanted to add some suggestions around your use of Newspapers.com citations to improve them. It's great to see a GAN make use of Newspapers.com, but I see ways to improve your citation handling. Some of these you may already be doing.

• Use URL links in |pages= for multi-part articles. You can and should do this for articles that run multiple pages. I have done this here since I wanted to correct another technical error and also as a sample. At Bob Harlan, another GAN of yours, this would result in the removal of a total of 15 citation templates by consolidating multipart clippings into one reference per article, not per part. (I did one of those already to fix an error.)
• Be mindful of page numbers. For analog microfilm originals, Newspapers.com will automatically provide a sequential page number. However, this is not the actual page number in many cases, particularly when the newspaper uses section-page numbering which becomes more common after midcentury. For instance, [1] is page 33 sequentially but actually page 7C. Make it a habit to check the page numbers. Some papers, particularly back issues of the Chicago Tribune and Los Angeles Times, have numbered or Roman numeral sections, which I separate with colons: 4:5, II:12. And you might even find named sections, such as TV listings inserts, or weekend magazines, which have their own pagination altogether. The more you work with a newspaper, the more you will understand quirks in its upload, etc.
  • You may need to adjust newspaper titles for some publications, especially joint Sunday editions and a few papers that changed their name. (An example: even pre-2011 citations say Tampa Bay Times, not St. Petersburg Times, unless edited.)
  • Digital microfilm is better at this, but some newspapers use a section label method that requires editing the page number. The Charlotte Observer, as is the case with some other papers, uses number-letter sectioning, e.g. 7C. Newspapers.com seems to only support metadata for the opposite, e.g. C7. Remember: every newspaper is different, and sometimes newspapers changed their pagination historically.

Are these just general recommendations or are there specific changes you see in the article? Regarding the split newspaper articles, the only reason I split hem up is to provide the opportunity for Wayback Machine to archive each link and provide that archive link in each {{Cite news}} template. This is sort of how I have done it (almost all of my GAs rely on Newspapers.com). Let me know what you think. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:16, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Images

There is one non-free image of the subject with a valid NFUR. The subject is eligible for this since he is deceased.

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