Talk:Robbinsville (CDP), New Jersey
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Is this really a census-designated place? There is no reference as such in the article. VerruckteDan 23:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Pasting in the conversation on this issue, which should be here, anyway.... Alansohn 23:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Robbinsville CDP, New Jersey
editThe better example would have been "Toms River, New Jersey" being renamed to Toms River CDP, New Jersey and "Dover Township, New Jersey" being renamed as Toms River, New Jersey, which was also the result of a ballot referendum passed on an election day. The problem with your rename of "Robbinsville, New Jersey" to Robbinsville CDP, New Jersey is that this Robbinsville is NOT a census-designated place ordained and defined by the United States Census Bureau. We do have borough/township pairs (e.g. Pemberton, New Jersey and Pemberton Township, New Jersey), but I agree that the Robbinsville neighborhood should be differentiated to distinguish it from the township to avoid possible mislinks. Robbinsville, New Jersey should also redirect to the Township (which I've done already. But what should we use instead of "CDP" in the title? Any thoughts? Alansohn 18:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- It's not a CDP? My mistake. That's what I get for assuming again...lol. I could have sworn it was a CDP, though. Anyway, you're right, it needs something to differentiate it from the (now) Robbinsville Township. We could do "Robbinsville, Robbinsville Township, New Jersey", but that's way too wordy. Why not just merge them together, since it's nothing more than a neighborhood of the township now? It seems like wasted space to have them separate. It'd be like having a separate article for Pedricktown and Oldmans Township; the names are interchangeable in Salem County, so there'd be no need to switch them. Speaking of, you got something against Salem County, saying my examples weren't good enough? ;-) LOL EaglesFanInTampa 20:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Nothing against Salem County, but those were examples of a paired Township/CDP, and what we have here is a renamed township that is now using the name of an area within the township as the new name for the whole township, more similar to the Toms River situation. What is now Robbinsville CDP, New Jersey was created for the Robbinsville ZIP code, using census bureau data for what's called a ZCTA. In many cases here in New Jersey, people will say they lived in "Robbinsville" (the address on their mail), not "Washington Township" (their municipality). We could finesses the whole issue by redirecting the old article to the new one, but I think that there should be an independent article for what is in essence "downtown" Robbinsville. Regarding Pedricktown, my usual standard is to create such articles if they have data at the Census Bureau web site (Pedricktown does, many do not), and if there are other existing articles linking to it (which Pedricktown does have). I'd be happy to whip up a standalone for article for you, if you'd be interested. Alansohn 20:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- The ZCTA is not strictly within the Township. Note that the 2000 population of the ZCTA is 11,010 and the populaiton of the township is 10,275. Unless there is something notable about this neighborhood to make it stand on its own (I'm not sure about that one way or another), I would recommend that it be merged into the township article. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, a place that's not officially recognized by the Census Bureau really has no need to be a separate article. I agree that it should just be merged into the main township article as its own section. EaglesFanInTampa 14:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- The ZCTA is not strictly within the Township. Note that the 2000 population of the ZCTA is 11,010 and the populaiton of the township is 10,275. Unless there is something notable about this neighborhood to make it stand on its own (I'm not sure about that one way or another), I would recommend that it be merged into the township article. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 14:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Nothing against Salem County, but those were examples of a paired Township/CDP, and what we have here is a renamed township that is now using the name of an area within the township as the new name for the whole township, more similar to the Toms River situation. What is now Robbinsville CDP, New Jersey was created for the Robbinsville ZIP code, using census bureau data for what's called a ZCTA. In many cases here in New Jersey, people will say they lived in "Robbinsville" (the address on their mail), not "Washington Township" (their municipality). We could finesses the whole issue by redirecting the old article to the new one, but I think that there should be an independent article for what is in essence "downtown" Robbinsville. Regarding Pedricktown, my usual standard is to create such articles if they have data at the Census Bureau web site (Pedricktown does, many do not), and if there are other existing articles linking to it (which Pedricktown does have). I'd be happy to whip up a standalone for article for you, if you'd be interested. Alansohn 20:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Grammar fix
editHi. Can we fix the last sentence, which now reads: "The team got 2nd place."? A better reading would be: "The team finished in 2nd place". Or, "The team had a 2nd-place finish". Thanks.````
FIPS Code
editThis article aint got no FIPS code. SOme one of you geezers with a bunch of time on your hands needs to go and get it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.36.165 (talk) 22:52, 10 March 2012 (UTC)