Talk:River Irwell/GA1

GA Review

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Initial review of main text follows. I will look at other issues asap.

Natural History

There is an inconsistency in the use of species names, with " Pochard ducks and Tufted ducks" being the sole capitalisations.

I see you have come up with a new style not anticipated by Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Animals, plants, and other organisms. It is consistent but it would be better to have either title case (Brown Trout, Mute Swan) or lower case (brown trout, mute swan) throughout.  Done

"Grey heron wading in the Irwell near Bury" may need a period?  Done

Geology

"The glaciers of the Pleistocene period further shaped the landscape". I think "further" implies there were no changes of significance between the Carboniferous and the Pleistocene, which is a little misleading.  Done

" in the area displaying Ashclough Marine Band" - should this not be "the Ashclough Marine Band"? with only "Marine Band" linked? I was expecting a link to an article specific to Ashclough.  Done

"Paleogeography" is a redirect  Done

catchment area

"The climate of the catchment area is, on average, wetter than that of the rest of the UK,". I don't think you mean that on average it is the wettest place in the UK, but that "the catchment area is wetter than the average for the UK,"  Done

"and the rivers quickly respond to rainfall" - this idea is repeated as "rapidly convey the run-off into the principal rivers" a couple of sentences later.  Done

Pennine has to deserve a link as does Millstone Grit  Done

"carboniferous" deserves a capital  Done

History

"The first known human settlements" - is there no evidence of prehistoric settlement?  Done

Good - signing off now and will cover the remainder asap. Ben MacDui 20:56, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

"When the hamlet of Kersal, which now forms part of the City of Salford, was handed over as a gift to the Cluniac monastery of Lenton, near Nottingham, in 1142, the most important part of the gift was the fishing rights in the River Irwell." Bit of a snake i.e. needs splitting up into two or more sentences.  Done

Who is Hugh Miller?  Done

"banks...loses" I would have used a space after the three periods… and it is not consistent with the MP's speech later.  Done expanded to full quote so periods now gone - quote formatted as original book, which is a bit quirky but that's how they did it then.

"passenger boat trips were popular but curtailed by the foul smells". It's a little odd that they were both popular and curtailed. Do you mean they were curtailed geographically or that they were cut short?  Done

"Mark Addy… would race to the rescue." I'm curious - did he swim or use a boat? Both, he was a champion boatman and excellent swimmer. He would row out or dive in depending on the circumstances.

"the Anaconda Cut The total cost". Period missing or other tweak needed.  Done

"in 1950 the Member of Parliament for Rossendale" you should tell us who he or she was. The MP quotes two extracts but these are not placed in quotation marks although the Grauniad's is.  Done

Extra blank space pre 1970s header  Done

The Manchester Evening News on 26 October quote is missing a period at the end. Ditto "bring the countryside into the heart of industrial Salford"

"Salford, for boating purposes," doesn't need the first comma?  Done

Mark Addy pub link is u/s.  Done

"Bridgewater Canal ...bringing" Now you're being silly.  Done

"£1.3M footbridge" & "£50M" & "£10M" £1.3m etc. for consistency  Done MOS says use £1 million the first time then £1M for the rest

I get fed up with this myself but "four kilometres" needs an imperial equivalent.

Do you mean Santiago Calatrava? that's the geezer  Done

"In July 2000 there was a setback to the cleanup programme when a pollution incident, which affected approximately four kilometers of the river between Rawtenstall and Ramsbottom, caused the death of more than 36,000 fish,[59] however, a £1m project to make the river "the cleanest it has been for decades" was announced by United Utilities in December 2005." Snake.  Done

"Adlington, Wigan, Chorley, Rochdale and Bury" Bury, and perhaps others are already linked.  Done

"remove the pollution at a cost of £1M," see above  Done

Commerce

"Mersey and Irwell Navigation Act" - why the quotes?  Done "Manchester Ship Canal" and possibly other canals, and Salford Quays linked more than once.  Done

"Irwell/Ship"?  Done

"Is a more serious flood of 1768. A local public house, the Black Boy, suffered serious damage" A bit too serious.  Done - added details of 1866 flood.

Regen

"Irwell City Park" italics?  Done

Ben MacDui 20:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Further tweaks :

If "ere-well" is Anglo Saxon it should be italicised.  Done

Why is Anaconda Cut in the lead italicised?  Done

References

Any with pdf files would ideally have "(pdf)" in the reference, although this is optional.

"Marsden, G., River Irwell Revival], has a stray bracket  Done

"Freethry, Ron (2004), isbn =1850588120" - surely the ISBN should be in caps?  Done

Ref 11 "Microhabitat characteristics" etc has no publisher.  Done Ditto 21  Done & 73 & 83-6 these have the publishers already British Waterways and MEN media

Refs 5 & 13 seem to be the same  Done

14 "retrieved on 24 February 2007" lower case "r". There are several others and they should be consistent throughout. Done

Other criteria - all fine. The large number of recent edits is not quite what I'd call "stable" although all are by editors making positive contributions and the review did come quickly after the nomination.

Good work, and more than enough to pass if you can fix the above.