Talk:Ritchie Blackmore/Archive 1

Slight change

Ritchie is not married to Candice, I have this on good authority as I work for the band in the UK on their promotions and PR. Candice is in fact his girl friend.

--Paulw99 15:00, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Added link

Is this Screaming Lord Sutch Black-Outfit info factual?

I added a link to Neo-classical metal. Also two links to interviews. Modi

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screaming_Lord_Sutch for a reference to Ritchie playing guitar on the album 'Hands of Jack the Ripper' (1972). Paulw99 08:52, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Cleaning Up

This needs sorting out, i'll tidy it up but leave the facts to others.Cokehabit 09:35, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Ok, all done. I added a picture and made it look more professional. Someone had tried to sort parts of it out but it had been left with some passages in it twice and sentences cut off in the middle. Cokehabit 11:02, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Isn't his middle name Hugh, not Harold?

No, Harold is correct; I changed it again.

Please note: Hugh is Ritchie's middle name, I can confirm this as I work for Ritiche's current band on promotions in the UK and have confirmed this with my boss (Ritchie)... The supposed official biography which said it was Harold was full of mistakes that some people have now come to believe, no official Ritchie Blackmore biography has been released to date. Paulw99 11:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

The error regarding Ritchie's middle name first appears in Chris Charlesworth's 'Deep Purple' biography (Omnibus 1981) and has been perpetuated ever since. You are correct in asserting no 'official' biography has yet been written; both 'Rainbow Rising' and 'Black Knight' are unsanctioned by the Blackmore management but highly recommended for all Blackmore devotees nonetheless! Harryurz (talk) 20:38, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

His agent advises by email that the correct middle name is Hugh.  JGHowes  ^talk 04:28, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Would detailing the MagiQuest information in his entry be best served by adding a link to the Wikipedia entry on same? The research is contained there, and would certainly facilitate the question of location. It currently says "east coast" and inquires [where?], but the actual MagiQuest article in Wikipedia indicates it has expanded. My opinion: best to just link it and have done with it, letting the other article answer the question of location. Besides, this is an article about Richie Blackmore, not MagiQuest. Seanscian (talk) 03:13, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Second Deep Purple album missing

Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't "In Rock" supposed to be the THIRD DP album? What about "The book of Taliesyn"? 'Twas released after "Shades of...", wasn't it? How could we forget a classic like "Wring that neck", the second track of the album. I think it was released in 1969, but I'm not sure right now and don't feel like looking it up, but I'm pretty sure it was released before "In rock", so the latter is in fact the third album, as I said. - comment by 80.58.15.170, 10 Dec 2005

Um, no. It goes "Shades of DP", "Book of Taliesyn", "Deep Purple", "Concerto for Group and Orchestra", "In Rock", "Fireball", "Machine Head," and then the "Made in Japan" live album.

There are additional live albums that could be inserted into this list, but they weren't released until decades later. "Concerto", on the other hand, was released at the time and needs to be included since it was the first appearance of DP Mark II. See the full list at Deep Purple#Studio Albums.

I rephrased the sentence -- it had used the word "next" to mean the "next album after the lineup change", which was confusing More importantly, the article on Blackmore does not need to list every Deep Purple album. That's why there's a Deep Purple page. Lawrence King 08:32, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Wasn't there an album called "April" during their Tetragrammaton years? Is this another name for the one titled "Deep Purple"?GuySperanza (talk) 14:42, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Removal of Trivia Items

I added a small trivia section to Ritchie Blackmore's article, yet despite all the statements made being true, they were removed by Angry22, I'd like to know why.

Trivia sections are slowly being removed from Wikipedia as most are uncited and unencylopedic. Feel free to add any encyclopdedic content that has proper citations. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 17:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

California Jam

The section read wonderfully, very dramatic, very Man In Black. But it was a little exaggerated and not entirely accurate. The footage of that part of the gig can be seen here and I have made a slight alteration to the section which is more in keeping with facts of the actual incident. Devious Viper 10:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

 This section still ist not correct. First of 
 all he did not destroy just one guitar, but
 two, the first one by hitting the TV camera;
 second he didn't "threw several amplifiers", 
 but just the one which was set off to fire,
 plus one of the speaker cabinets. I will not
 correct the section because of my bad English,
 please would some native English speaking
 person do this ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.216.89.153 (talk) 09:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC) 

Done. Thanks for posting the link to the show, it was fun to watch! DFS (talk) 09:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Plagiarism Claim

There is a complaint of some plagiarisms in the tune that he made in 1970's. The originality of his old tune is doubted. → 219.104.29.179 19:23, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

This comment is a little confusing; what plagarism? which tune? Please supply references etc for inclusion in the article. Thanks Harryurz 12:24, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

In an interview of Japanese magazine, Ritchie Blackmore admitted that Black Night was plagiarism. In Japanese interview, he recognized that he borrowed idea from other artist a little when troubled with composition of Deep Purple.--219.104.3.239 23:55, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Nick Simper, the bassist with DP Mk. I, claims that he showed Ritchie Blackmore the riff from Ricky Nelson's Summertime and that it was the basis for Black Night. Roger Glover agrees in an interview with Rumba Magazine, November 1993 (excerpt), and claims that he (Glover) insisted that they write new words and put it out as the single the record company wanted them to make. In mitigation he claims that they were all drunk. NickS 14:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the references; having listened to both mentioned tracks while I can hear a similarity in the riffs, in my opinion it is not blatant plagerism as normally defined. ie "take the ideas, writings, etc. from another and pass them off as one's own". If we include such subjective accusations, then many of the rock group entries in Wikipedia should contian such references.What are other's views?? Thanks Harryurz 22:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Check this video on youtube, it has Richie Blackmore pretty much confirming these "claims". He doesn't seem to be very much reserved about it, though. :D B Lizzard 10:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Gear Setup

That whole final section in parts is offensive to the English language, not to mention lacking in citations. The whole "A likely reason for this is that the amps he was using were not equipped with master volume, and therefore needed to be at high volume to overdrive the power amp valves. Another reason is simply that valve amps are said to work best at higher volumes." bit just made me confused. Which one is it? A or B? Or do we simply not know and therefore thought to put in a nonsensical paragraph about the potential reasons for that particular set up? Gibberish.--Koncorde 17:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't make sense to me either. I thought the idea of Master Volume (between preamp and power amp stages) was to allow the PREamp section to be overdriven without having the power amp section at full blast. If you want to get power amp overdrive at low acoustic output you need an attenuator (e.g. HotPlate) on the output. Also, the stuff about Dawk modding Ritchie's Marshalls is repeated in this section. Needs revision. Anecdote: I met Ritchie once backstage after a concert (Trentham Gardens, 07-May-74) and asked him why he switched to using the Stratocaster. He said "I just felt like it". NickS 13:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, the divine wisdom. Goes alongside those other pearls such as "I was given it for free" or "they offered me a wodge load of cash to use it".--Koncorde 01:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

first you must understand that until the 1980's Marshall amps did not have a master volume therefore you had to play at high volume levels to get the kind of distorion that Ritchie uses. Secondly, up until the time he switched to Engl amps, Ritchie only used the 200w Marshall major.....these amps were built only in the late 60's and early 70's...hopes this clears a few things up —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.238.70.128 (talk) 00:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

behavior

Ritchie Blackmore has been known for his bad attitude and tempure according to people around him and especially Ian Gillan. There should be something about his beligerant behavior in his article. And also, there should be at least a picture of this man for christ sake! hes a legend.Jk31213 15:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, i was wondering if there was going to be anything in this article about Blackmore's reputation for being a notorious asshole. DFS (talk) 05:06, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I've heard Ian Gillan say in interview that one of the last straws was Blackmore saying that "Clapton can't play guitar" but I don't have a reference. Mind you if anybody can say that, Blackmore can. If you can find some of the stuff he did in his early days...well, I don't think a better guitarist has ever lived. This article doesn't really do justice if you ask me. 81.152.136.118 (talk) 18:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

He's bad-mouthed Clapton in print. Somewhere in an ancient interview in some magazine he said something along the lines of "Clapton - he's a good blues singer, I suppose". Unfortunately I don't have a citation. I very much doubt that Blackmore's opinion of Clapton is a significant factor in his relationship with Gillan - and if Gillan said so I suspect he was having a little joke at the interviewer's expense. 85.80.212.159 (talk) 15:08, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Picture

Why is there a huge picture of Candice with Ritchie barely visible? People who come here might want to see a picture of Ritchie, since this is his page. Tenseigamoon (talk) 00:09, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

It's currently the only freely available picture on the Wikimedia Commons. Free images should be used in infoboxes for living people. --Cubs Fan ^(Talk) 00:24, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

what about cropping it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnarcistPig (talk • contribs) 18:01, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

• Someone please visit Blackmore show and make a photo of him! Current photo may be usable for band article or for Candice page, but not for Ritchie. Too low in resolution.Garret Beaumain (talk) 00:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

The photo looks like Tony Iomi of Black Sabbath! ( Linsalder 10.38pm 9 Feb 2009) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.2.188 (talk) 22:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

That does look like Iommi from that angle, but I think it's Blackmore.GuySperanza (talk) 15:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Rolling Stone List

The bit about Blackmore being on that "Rolling Stone" list of greatest guitarists is nice for the article, but does it need to be right at the beginning? It's just one magazine's list, and putting it that close to the front makes it seem more authoritative than I think it deserves to be, as though it’s "The Truth" about how guitarists rank. If anything, a similar kind of ranking from "Guitar Player" would be more appropriate, as its focus is musicality, while Rolling Stone has more of a fashion orientation. It was nice of the Purple-hating Stone to include Blackmore on that list, but #55? I'll bet $5 they've got Johnny Ramone and Neil Young ranked ahead of him. The space in the introductory paragraph should be for essential facts about the subject, and I think that the number of times Blackmore finished top 5 in "Guitar Player" Player of the Year voting, or the names of some prominent guitarists who were strongly influenced by Blackmore, would say a lot more about him than his place in some "Rolling Stone" listmania trivia.GuySperanza (talk) 15:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

photo

Please add another profile picture of Ritchie Blackmore,i think this is not too good for profile photo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamuran otukenli (talk • contribs) 14:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Smoke On The Water

"One of Blackmore's best-known guitar riffs is from the song "Smoke on the Water". He plays the riff without a pick, using two fingers to pluck the strings in fourths."

This is true to an extent but he's also using his thumb to pluck the bass notes of this riff. Very discernable on the "Live In Japan" 3-disc set. Please research and edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.64.111.18 (talk) 23:45, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

What?

The entire introductory paragraph on this page is dreadfully written. It makes Rainbow and Blackmore's Night sound like his first bands, and makes Deep Purple sound like some tiny band at the end of his career who only ever made 2 albums. I'm not even sure what "established his favoured Europeanness hard rock style" is supposed to mean. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.169.67 (talk) 12:53, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

There's a revision from a couple of months ago which has a far better introductory paragraph, I'll put that back in. It's simple, easy to understand and gives a brief overview of the important points in his life. Exactly what an intro should be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.169.67 (talk) 12:59, 14 April 2013 (UTC)