Talk:Prison gang
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editThis article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Shreyadhital. Peer reviewers: Akm2173, Shenqiu92.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 07:12, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
VfD done results
editThis page was voted on for deletion at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Prison gang. The final result was Merge and STG to Prison gang. --Deathphoenix 02:50, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
"Thus, gangs are often more-or-less tolerated by prison administrators due to the side-benefits they create" Really, I work for a correctional facility and I have never tolerated such benefits. Perhaps the author of this statement could provide some examples.
"Prison rape is also consciously ignored by guards and authorities for this same functionality." Deleted because that is opinion with no factual basis cited and appears to address an agenda rather than an informational function.
Deleted statement that AB is somehow aligned with the "Aryan Nations" group. Other than the use of the term "Aryan" in the names of the two groups, they share little in common. AB is a prison gang that is dedicated to running rackets behind bars and has little or no ideological agenda.
The information regarding black Eme members is questionable. Any sources? There used to be some blacks associated with sureno gangs in SoCal, but given the current climate on the streets and in the "correctional system", that is long a thing of the past.
Native Gangs
edit"the NB culture is more like a family or fraternity of brothers who feel that the only reason why they exist in the world is out of necessity. The reason they are known for violence and aggression is to prevent other races and other gangs from attempting to continue to prey on natives. The need for instilling and protecting the traditions and values of native communities in each other continues to be their primary goal. The concept of pride in self and understanding of community and family values are the core concepts"
way to promote for a prison gang, wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.247.68.214 (talk) 12:03, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Sources
editThis is a very interesting article but it is wholly lacking sources. I'd be interested to dig into some sources (I have to imagine that they exist in the form of reports by law enforcement and other groups) and would be grateful to any other editors who can help add sources to the article.Cuffeparade 17:20, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
General comments
editHi Shreyadhital
- For the lede (introductory paragraphs), you didn't have one. Rather the page went straight to the definition section. I've deleted the definition title to give the page a lede, but that is still not a summary of much of the page's content. Please consider adding a quick summary of the main points
- You should organize the page through careful use of headings and subheadings. Right now everything is headings but there is a clear hierarchy of information. I have made a few edits but I'd recommend that you try to spend a little time on this.
- In discussing the convict code, it would be useful to highlight the role of informal norms more clearly, and maybe link to discussions of informal norms on Wikipedia.
- There are several times when the citation you are using is not clear. I'm sure it's one of the references you cite, but you should make clear which one. I've highlighted some examples with a Citation Needed tag.
- The Alternative Factors and Explanations section could be better organized. For instance, could you identify the core ideas and organize around these, rather than organizing around specific papers.
- The Policy Implications section is short and not as useful or well done as other sections
- Smaller points
- The page could use a See Also section
- Can you link items like stationary bandits to pages with that discussion?
Hello and Good Day: Lackluster Section - "List of American prison gangs"
editOnce again: Hello. I just would like to bring up some concerns I had with this article, but it's just one area in particle. This Section seems to contain a various items on it that don't really have citations (or maybe it just isn't linked properly). I don't mean to be rude; it's not that big a deal. Where I see progress being made is on items like: "Brotherhood of Aryan Alliance (a. k. a. the "211's") [11]" where not much is mentioned at all. I believe the "[11]" is referring to "The Danger of Dungeons: Prison Gangs and Incarcerated Militant Groups. Small Arms Survey, Chapter 6". If a contributer combed through it, I believe the list would have a lot positive qualities expanded on. I don't have much experience with things like this, but wouldn't mind helping where I can. (I just don't know the fix is all) Goldguy81 (talk) 23:34, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Changing the lead section
editThe intro states "It has a corporate entity and exists into perpetuity" what does that even mean? since when have prison gangs been incorporated ? and exists in perpetuity? What they last forever now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uportu234 (talk • contribs) 14:50, 21 May 2020 (UTC)