Talk:Photographic Alliance of Great Britain

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Disclaimer: I am not a member of PAGB. No one is - photographers in the UK often belong to photographic societies, and these are often members of regional federations, and the PAGB is an alliance of 15 such federations covering the entire UK. (I am a member of North Cheshire Photographic Society, which is a member of the Lancashire & Cheshire Photographic Union, which is affiliated to the PAGB. I have no role at PAGB). Barry Pearson 21:16, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Notability: PAGB is the UK representative at Fédération Internationale de l'Art Photographique (FIAP). (Scotland and Wales have federations represented at FIAP, but they are also affiliated to PAGB). Apparently the only other primary national representative at FIAP with its own page in Wikipedia is the Federation of Indian Photography. But in some cases individual photographic societies have pages in Wikipedia while their national representatives at FIAP do not have such pages. Examples include RA Photo Club, affiliated to the Canadian Association for Photographic Art, and Dundalk Photographic Society, affiliated to the Irish Photographic Federation. This unevenness is probably partly because of the different level of significance of the national organisations in different countries, and partly because of gaps in Wikipedia that should be filled. In the UK, there are a few hundred photographic societies in the PAGB, hence several thousand photographers. Another aspect of notability is that PAGB confers post-nominal awards which are very popular and common among leading photographers in the UK: CPAGB, DPAGB, MPAGB, and APAGB. (Each of these is to have its own page directed to the main page). Barry Pearson 21:16, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

I've now taken this page about as far as I can by myself, so I'm about to move it. I'm confident the PAGB is notable. I estimate that at least 50,000 club photographers in the UK are indirectly affiliated to it, via about 1,200 clubs and the 15 federations. Probably 1000s of them have PAGB-awarded letters after their names. This page certainly has no BLP issues. Most of the references are not to the PAGB website. Unfortunately the archives of the PAGB are at Birmingham Central Library, and are being packed up for safe transfer to the new Library of Birmingham, so are inaccessible for use here, (learned via private email-exchanges with the archivists at the Library), and realistically will remain inaccessible for a year or two. I hope that other people will be able use other sources of information to extend the history section. Barry Pearson 14:33, 29 October 2011 (UTC)