Talk:Origin Pacific Airways

Can somebody confirm whether the airline has ceased operations?

Recent edits to this article suggest that the airline has collapsed and is no longer operating. A quick google search reveals that as of 9 hours ago (at time of writing this message) the airline was still operating. (see here and here. While the tone in the second article in particular is not positive, niether article has written the airline off yet? Have there been more recent developments to justify the recent edits declaring it a defunct airline? -- Adz|talk 10:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

ignore my request above, I've just checked their website. - I should have looked there first. oops.

suggested edits before made defunct - History

Before this article is relegated to the scrap heap of the defunct airlines category, (where few articles experience quality edits) would somebody be able to add some more information about the history? The Qantas code share would seem a valuable addition. When did the codeshare arrangement begin? Was it at the time the airline was established or was it after? -- Adz|talk 10:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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Unsourced material

The following material was added by TePuke Cowboy. I've removed it from the article as it is unsourced, and it looks likely from the text that no source will be coming. Such material fails Wikipedia's requirements of WP:V.-gadfium 00:49, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

According to an inside source unable to be named, the airline traded for almost a decade with no accurate grasp of it's hourly fixed operating costs. This was not uncovered until a new team of consultants were called in during the airline's twilight. One of those consultants negotiated 23 code shares with International airlines to New Zealand in an attempt to gain more passenger feed.

Another source advises that upon analysis it was revealed had the airline simply charged an average $3 more per ticket the company would have made a healthy net profit each year. Instead the airline could not shake off an accumulated debt of NZ$29 million.

One key to the airline's early success was a domestic code share with the Qantas subsidiary in New Zealand called Jetconnect Ltd. Origin Pacific provided the Qantas group with a regional feeder network, whilst Jetconnect only served major routes with Boeing 737-300 aircraft.

From 2004 Air New Zealand courted Qantas with a merger offer, which offered an advantage to Qantas as it would come to dominate Air New Zealand under the proposal.

A stipulation was that Qantas had to sever it's code share with Origin Pacific. This became a significant blow to Origin Pacific, but need not have been fatal consultants discovered had there been proper financial discipline in place.

Predictably, the New Zealand Commerce Commission held hearings where there was fierce opposition to the monopolistic implications of such a merger for New Zealand's tourism industry. Air New Zealand's largest shareholder at this point (86%) was the New Zealand taxpayer. The Commerce Commission eventually prevented any merger, but in the time it was under consideration great harm was done to the marketing position of both Origin Pacific and Qantas subsidiary Jetconnect.

In this context, it is hard to escape the conclusion that Air New Zealand may have offered merger talks with the sole aim of destroying Origin Pacific and that but for this Origin Pacific might still be in business today.

To this day Jetconnect lacks any equivalent regional feeder network. It is surprising that the code share was not revived after the Commerce Commission's decision. This may have been due to lingering mistrust. This lack of a regional feeder service remained a monopoly market for Air New Zealand in 2007.

With the entry of Pacific Blue, an airline subsidiary of the Virgin Blue brand in Australia, the weakness of both Qantas and Virgin in the New Zealand market is their lack of such a feeder network.

Origin Pacific's founder Robert Inglis retains ownership of three J-31 Jetstream aircraft, which he is using with a Maori tribal trust to ressurect his ambitions as a charter airline TePuke Cowboy (talk) 22:57, 17 November 2007 (UTC)TePuke Cowboy