Talk:Order of precedence in England and Wales/Archive 3

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Ranking between different genders

The article states "Separate orders exist for gentlemen and ladies.". But what does that mean? Surely events can happen in England and Wales with both gentlemen as well as ladies attending. So how are they ranked between each other? Do all gentlemen come before ladies or ladies before gentlemen or does it depend on the different sections within the orders? It seems to me that this is a big gap in this article and the article should answer this question. Unfortunately I was unable to find an answer with a quick internet search, so it would be especially good to have one here together with a proper reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.71.142.55 (talk) 20:38, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Inconsistent placing of grandchildren of previous monarchs.

The positions for grandchildren of former monarchs are inconsistent between the list for Gentlemen and Ladies... In the Ladies list, grandchildren of previous monarchs are placed higher than grandchildren of the current monarch - whilst in the gentlemen’s list, it is the other way around.

I find it hard to believe that female grandchildren of former monarchs actually outrank grandchildren of the current monarch - eg that Lady Sarah Chatto outranks Princess Beatrice - howeve I don’t have the definitive information.

Which is correct?

The Thieving Gypsy (talk) 08:23, 28 October 2020 (UTC)