Talk:Order of World Scouts

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The following was undertaken (1) Merge both tables but identify the UTSA. (2) Make this list alphabetical for easy reference. (3) Remove the Scout History Association as this is not a part of the Order of World Scouts – no affiliation is given on its pages see http://www.netpages.free-online.co.uk/sha/index.htm.It lists the BBS under “other organisations” i.e. not part of the Scout History Association or vice-versa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.251.238 (talk) 20:34, 14 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

The free-online.co.uk is their old website, Scout History Association move together with the Order of World Scouts to Boy-scout.net. See: [1]. At boy-scout.netthere is even a link to their old website (2006) now hosted at boy-scout.net. So it is possible that the Scout History Association join OWS after 2006 and now. It is also telling that the 1st member is The Reverend Michael Foster. Spshu (talk) 14:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

Regarding the American Boy Scouts while this organization is referred to in a sigular manner American Boy Scout (or later United States Boy Scout) as best I can tell from sources is that the name is officially American Boy Scouts (and later United States Boy Scouts). I see that you remove the seperate organization information for the Australia and South Africa BBS but treat them seperately here. That is a bit of contradictory isn't it? Spshu (talk) 14:30, 16 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

In 1910, Willian Randolf Hearst - the American Newspaper owner, incorporated "The American Boy Scout" - which in popular discussions is now incorrectly known as the "American Boy Scouts". The New York Supreme Court, in dealing with the case in 1917-1919, correctly uses the designation "The American Boy Scout" and the later name of "The United States Boy Scout" see; Supreme Court, New York County, BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA, Plaintiff, -against- THE UNITED STATES BOY SCOUT, Defendent August 1917-March 1919. The Court records offer incontrovertible proof of the correct title.

Concerning the American Boy Scout movement and Hearst, see the New York American May 10, p. 3; May 12, 1910, p. 4; June 5, 1910, p. 11L; June 7, 10, 1910, p. 10; July 7, 1910, p. 4; July 10, 1910, p. 6L; July 12, 13, 15, and 20, 1910, p. 8; July 26, 1910, p. 5; August 6, 1910, p. 14; August 14, 1910, p. 10L; August 20, 24, 1910, p.5; September 4, 1910, p. 3-II; September 5, 24, 1910, p. 8; October 9, 1910, p. 11L; October 13, 1910, p. 4. For Hearst's election as national president of the Boy Scouts and his financial contribution, see ibid,, July 1, 1910, p. 8; July 18, 1910, p. 5. Note, however, that Hearst resigned his position in December 1910, upon discovering evidence of corruption in fund-raising. See ibid., December 9, 1910, p. 11; December 14, 1910, p. 4; December 21, 1910, p. 7. 27.

Later Sir Francis Vane distanced himself from the American Boy Scout as the organisation became more military, and sought to gain other groups in the USA - see Vane, Sir Francis, Training of Boys Scouts, in Russell, Thomas H. (Ed) Stories of Boy Scouts and Girls’ Open Air Clubs, L. H. Walter 1912, pages 133-138. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.193.252 (talk) 23:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

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