Talk:North Cascades National Park/Archive 1

Plagarism

I removed a paragraph from the end of the article which was lifted straight off a tangentially-related non-profit organization:

A nonprofit partner of North Cascades National Park, the North Cascades Institute, seeks to inspire a closer relationship with nature through direct experiences in the natural world. Since 1986 the Institute has helped connect people, nature and community through science, art, literature and the hands-on study of natural and cultural history. In 2005, North Cascades Institute will open the North Cascades Environmental Learning Center. A partnership with the National Park Service and the City of Seattle, the Learning Center is surrounded by millions of acres of protected public lands. It will be a hub of discovery into one of the wildest, most biologically diverse landscapes in North America.

See the North Cascades Institute website. -- BlueCanoe 20:06, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

Photography

The article mentions Mt. Shuksan, one of the most-photographed mountains in the world. Can we get a photo of the famous Mt. Shuksan? Anybody?

See Mount Shuksan for photos, although this is the "classic" image of Shuksan. Someone needs to take a field trip to Mirror Lake or whatever that spot is called. -- BlueCanoe 02:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

View of Mount Shuksan from Picture Lake

I uploaded mine recently and just saw this discussion. I replaced another image on the page, but it was by no means any judgement on that photo. Feel free to adjust as needed. -- Siradia 05:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Image map (painting by Heinrich Berann)

I have created an image map of Heinrich C. Berann's painting of North Cascades. It has some links to various features of the park, and hopefully, people will add more. I will add it to the attractions section. The template is set to 1000 pixels, which I think is the minimum necessary considering the detail and the links.

To add to the image map go to Template:NCascades ImageMap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArcticBartek (talk • contribs) 17:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

I resized the {{NCascades ImageMap}} image map to 800 px based on the history of {{Yosemite ImageMap}}.[1] There it was decided that it was best to place the image map in a new article Geography of the Yosemite area.[2] Perhaps an analogous article will be useful here one day. Walter Siegmund (talk) 03:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Nearest city

Recently someone edited the "nearest city" attribute in the infobox from Seattle, Washington to Bellingham, Washington. Description of "nearest city" from the infobox page:

Recommended if the area is not within a city. It could be a city with a major airport or a large gateway town where supplies and lodging are available.

I've seen this issue come up in other geographic articles, and while there doesn't seem to be any hard rule, the general consensus has been that the "nearest city" should be defined with a global audience in mind. Of course there's a gradient, Seattle/VancouverBC > Bellingham/Mt. Vernon > Sedro Wooley/Marblemount/Winthrop/Darrington > Stehekin/Newhalem, etc... I guess that I would be in favor of retaining Seattle or switching to Vancouver, British Columbia, as they are the only two cities in the region large enough to be familiar to someone reading this from Europe, etc. On the other hand, Rocky Mountain National Park = Estes Park, Colorado not Denver, Yosemite National Park = Mariposa, California not San Franciso or Sacramento, etc. What are your thoughts? --BlueCanoe (talk) 22:29, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Estes Park is definitely a "gateway town" to Rocky Mountain NP, as is Gatlinburg, Tennessee to Great Smoky Mountains National Park, to give another example. I'm not so sure about the "cities" listed for Grand Canyon National Park (one of them even redirects to Grand Canyon!). Mount Rainier National Park lists Tacoma which, while not a "gateway town" to the park is a major city--and there are no real gateway towns to Rainier. For North Cascades NP the case seems even less clear. Not only are there no "gateway towns" (Marblemount is barely a town at all, Sedro Woolley and Darrington never struck me as particularly national park oriented... Winthrop maybe, but it is not "large" by any stretch) but there is no single obvious large city nearby to pick. Seattle is the largest, sure, but it is quite a drive from the park. Everett is closer, but, well... Bellingham seems reasonable. Still, no obvious answer comes to mind. Since many other NP park pages list two "cities", both Seattle and Bellingham could be mentioned. Seattle is definitely more globally known, but Bellingham would make a much more convenient homebase for heading into the park. Just some thoughts. Pfly (talk) 08:29, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Reading this discussion from long ago, I should probably mention that I did change the nearest city from Mount Vernon to Sedro Woolley. Sedro Woolley is where the North Cascades National Park Service Complex is located and the town has long been called "The Gateway to the North Cascades". 00:25, 12 August 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alaska4Me2 (talk • contribs)

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Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2018

I recommend adding a comma after mink to separate it from river otter in a list of resident macrofauna. Thanks! 167.154.84.124 (talk) 23:28, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Done.--MONGO (talk) 00:01, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Lewis & Clark citation in lede for Native American habitation

The link in the lede is dubious and unclear exactly which record it is sourcing. Lewis and Clark's expedition on the Columbia River never got within 200 miles of the current North Cascades National Park, as far as I know. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:19, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

No idea what you mean. What link?--MONGO (talk) 04:51, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Nevermind...Hike395 took care of it as it was added here. Thanks for pointing this out.--MONGO (talk) 04:57, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Incorrect data in Climate section

The following is found in the Climate section:

"According to the United States Department of Agriculture, the Plant Hardiness zone at Sunrise Visitor Center (548 ft / 167 m) elevation is 8a with an average annual extreme minimum temperature of 14.5 °F (-9.7 °C). [108]}

The Sunrise Visitor Center is at Mount Rainier National Park, not North Cascades. Can somebody verify if this claim applies here? Ron Clausen (talk) 01:03, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

There is an editor going around slapping this climate data in many article about parks. Not all their additions are bad but most require digging through a generic reference to obtain the same data they did for their edit. Not an ideal situation. Anyway, I struck the material in question.--MONGO (talk) 03:31, 28 July 2019 (UTC)