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Picture is somewhat wrong. Nanny is described as having 'face like old apple', so is presumably not fat, despite her appetite.

I was under the impression that she was plump in the way elderly women can be. The face, though, needs to be lined. --Kizor 04:56, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Pratchett mentions or alludes to her being fat at several points. In Thief of Time, Susan meets her and sizes her up at being fat with "little black currant" eyes. And then in Maskerade when she's part of the ballet line and earlier in Witches Abroad when she's dancing, it talks about parts of her orbiting. 209.244.16.209 23:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Nanny's childrenEdit

I removed this:

(it is suspected that the name of three of her offspring are a reference to the artist Paul Kidby's own children)

Most of Nanny's named offspring were named before Kidby was known as a Discworld figure.

Incidentally, what are the names of Paul's kids? Because I strongly suspect the line about them being called Sharleen, Shawn and Pewsey was A Joke. Daibhid C 19:52, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

OgghamEdit

Somebody please fill in the Ogg ancestry legends and relevance to Ogham. 62.0.129.41 09:31, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Very little information actually exists in the books themselves, it has been suggested that the relationship between Nanny Ogg, Ogham and some of the other history that has been alluded to, is merely a 'fond desire' of Nanny Ogg of which nobody is certain of the truth any more, least of all her.

--perfectblue 11:24, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Nanny's voracious appetitesEdit

I notice that though she's said to really like to eat and drink, nobody mentions the several broad hints Pratchett lays down about her carnal appetites, especially when she was a bit younger. Among them:

  • The "off the shoulder" dress that she mentions from her past, which Granny Weatherwax mentions was "right off the shoulder and onto the floor mostly", in Witches Abroad.
  • The scenes in Thief of Time where a younger Nanny Ogg is sought out at the wrong times in her life. She's pictured adjusting her clothing for her date to be a bit less demure.
  • The rather bawdy nature of her songs and books
  • And of course the number of husbands she wasn't married to, and children with unexplained fathers

I think there's enough material there to make "really likes to eat and drink" a pretty incomplete list.

Nanny Ogg could be said to be carrying on the established Chaucerian and Shakespearean archetype of The Bawd. Steverapaport (talkcontribs) 12:15, 26 April 2007 (UTC).

post mortem childrenEdit

"one was born some ten years after the death of her last husband"

I believe this is referenced to Shawn and specifically in Lords & Ladies.

Shawn says Mr. Ogg is his dad. I don't recally any book saying Mr. Ogg was her last husband it would make more sense that he was the first given that Nanny took the last name. Either way his biological father is someone else, but still.

I thought her surname had been Ogg all her life? I think she was Miss Ogg in one book where Vimes traveled back in time. Ariadne55 (talk) 00:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
It's in Thief of Time, Oggs a large clan and anyone marrying in takes the name 'Ogg' regardless of if their male or female.--Nate1481(t/c) 09:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Of course she was always Gytha Ogg; witches are generally matrilineal. But who were these other two "husbands" we never heard from before? (And that's post mortem.) --Ampwright (talk) 14:21, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

EtymologyEdit

The Irish Gaelic for hedgehog is 'Gráinneog'. (See this List of UK Mammal Species). This latter has been mentioned by Terry Pratchett himself in 'The Art of Discworld' so I think it's safe to add to the article. 'Nanny Ogg' is also reminiscent of the Old Irish 'na n-Oc' or 'na nÓg' meaning 'Eternal Youth', which I suspect may be another Pratchett Joke, but cannot confirm. 213.48.150.168 (talk) 11:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Issues with the articleEdit

I have raised a number of tags on this article. I actually believe that there is no way that the article can be made acceptable, because I don't believe there are enough secondary sources about Nanny, and so it fails notability and should be deleted; but I thought I'd give people interested in the article a chance to improve it. When I'm back home, I'll have a look at Terry Pratchett: Guilty of Literature, which might have enough references to save it, though I am sure that most of the information in the article is only in primary sources (or original research) and should be removed. Anybody considering working on it should read WP:MOSFICT. --ColinFine (talk) 11:06, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm inclined to think the article could be merged with Granny Weatherwax, seeing as so much is devoted to comparing the two. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 00:23, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

I think a merge between Nanny and Granny would probably end up a bit redundant with Witches (Discworld). I'll be honest, that, as are most Discworld articles, is kind of a mess right now, though I've done some look in to sources to maybe use for it. Haven't looked much for Nanny in particular, but I have seen these two ([1][2]) and the stamp thing. As the articles stands now, I think it should probably either be merged with the Witches article or basically rewritten. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 09:22, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
Rewritten - the stamp issue grants her sufficient notability. 50.37.106.251 (talk) 01:25, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
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