Talk:Minor sixth

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Jerome Kohl in topic 51:32 in Infobox

Lyric

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Excuse me if I wax abit lyrical after finding this topic but it shows a potential to develope ( I hope I get the time to gather the tools... ) a deeper sense of what is involved in the perceptual,... what actually happens in our reality. From Helmholtz I remember ( perhaps imperfectly ) that the least number of combination tone created by the most consonant of notes yeilds At Least 4 actual tones. At a lower loudness level some of the tones might be inaudible, and as the volume increases different tonal experiences happen. The above applies to sine tones, when the tones have overtones alot more happens, with similar consequences re notes rising to audibility. I imagine sampling some of the different types of spectrum analyser displays and perhaps go a bit mad and imagine different instruments and other games with these toys. And Here there is this little article in this mother of all encyclopedias, would it be possible to disply so much graphic content here? If so each of these articles on tonal intervals could teach away many meta doubts of understanding. If not perhaps there might be a way to do it offsite, might possibly that is... but I wonder how many other subjects could be similarly enlarged to enormous advantage by thinking of the encylcopedia format as a gateway to developed treatments of chapter or book or flash animation or powerpoint.

Seashore ( the music theorist ) Had the idea that simple tones lose our interest and need to be enlived by "noise", such as attack, complex overtones through time, dissonances etc,&etc . "Klangfarb" is a great word for the musician or theorist.

Cubase has a rather nice spectrum analyser, but would it be legal to post their output? I might be mad enough to elaborate for this one interval to show what I mean. Sometimes I like to let the world turn on an idea for awhile, perhaps some wikipedians know what I mean. Wblakesx 07:00, 30 September 2006 (UTC)wblakesxReply

I've taken the liberty of formatting your message so I can read it (lines shouldn't start with spaces). Understanding it is a different matter. Does this have anything to do with the minor sixth specifically? This all sounds like original research to me. Why don't you put it on your own website? —Keenan Pepper 18:01, 30 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thanks KP,
They are comments about intermodulation and apply to all intervals incluing sixths.
Perhaps a link to a blog would be the best way of handling the info, legality permitting.
I recently have had a rather odd and disturbing realization that minor sixth chords use the major sixth interval. Any comments appreciated- wb

Requested audio

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I have added an audio example to the article. Hyacinth (talk) 20:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

humanbenchmark.com

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I am removing the claim about the minor 6th being the hardest interval to ID by ear. It is original research if it's based on the data directly, and it's relying on a self-published source if it's based on the their interpretations. Even if it was an acceptable source, it would only be valid for the narrow group of people who choose to take that online, English-language test. --Allen (talk) 18:45, 8 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

Subminor sixth

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  • The 27:32 subminor sixth<ref>Johannes Kepler (2009). The Harmonies of the World, p.107. ISBN 0559127936. Maybe subminor third inverted as note reads: "Here 'sixth' (sexta) should probably be 'third' (tertia)."</ref> of 906 cents (the Pythagorean major sixth)

I removed the above given the note. Hyacinth (talk) 10:58, 1 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

51:32 in Infobox

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In the infobox, 51:32 is listed as a ratio in JI for the minor sixth. However, this has no citation, and it is not mentioned anywhere else in the article. Should this be removed? Ezhao02 (talk) 02:19, 7 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

I think we can safely say that 51 is outside of the (admittedly vague) range of "small numbers" specified for JI. However, the JI article itself could be improved in this regard.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 16:21, 7 June 2017 (UTC)Reply