Talk:Ministry of Jesus/Archive 1

Archive 1

Some Grammatical Stuph

ok..

"Ofcourse it is VERY valid to add that according to the Roman Sence that happened circa the Time when Jesus was born shows no existence of any city within the roman empire called Nazareth. Then why is Jesus Called Jesus of NAzareth? Well, that was born due to a missconceprion of the term Nazerene. Nazerene was a sect within the Jewish people with strong helenistic tendencies. Jesus's Familly was part of this sect and the bible cuotes that Jesus was in fact a Nazerene. So the actual transaction would be Jesus the Nazerene and not Jesus of Nazarteh... Therefore we must think of that considering that Jesus was born in Nazarteh."


This needs to be verified and cleaned up, the english is terrible - no offense to whoever wrote it. --Defiant103 17:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

scope of article

Is this article "Ministry of Jesus according to the gospels considered at face value"? or "Ministry of the historical Jesus, epsecially as depicted more or less accurately in religious accounts"? Jonathan Tweet 20:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

ethic of reciprocity

"The second commandment, essentially a formulation of the ethic of reciprocity,..." I think this statement is incorrect. The Golden Rule is fundamentally flawed because it assumes that all humans have the same interests. E.g., a masochist may derive joy from suffering pain, but that does not, according to Matthew 22:39, give her the right to inflict pain on others, although she would be complying with the Golden Rule. --71.82.97.218 02:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

expert opinion?

Why are there no citations to reliable sources in this article? Leadwind (talk) 02:21, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Quality?

The more I look at this article, the more I read REWRITE. The Teachings section is a hopeless cherrypicking of passages, non-representative and misses key elements. And there are very few WP:RS sources overall. Needs a shorter, more focused and rewritten article, then can be gradually expand. As a starter, even the first sentence in the article is incorrect. Go figure... History2007 (talk) 05:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Postscript, I have since fixed the problems and there are now about 130 WP:RS references, and every paragraph has been researched and is fully supported. History2007 (talk) 21:07, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Contrary to popular thought and the gist of this article, Jesus of Nazareth did not have an evangelical show that was televised throughout the Eastern Mediterranean during the early part of the 1st Century of the Millenium. To call some guy wondering around the Middle East as other religious leaders did, leading a flock of people, is not a ministry. A "ministry" is a modern invention which completely misrepresents the history of the event and the authenticity of the event itself. On top of this complete rewrite which is obviously engendered by evangelical crack addicts, you have compartmentalized the events of a man's life and his doings (assuming he was real since there is valid historical debate questioning that)and have now turned Jesus of Nazareth into a compartmentalized double of Mohammed and Islam. The monkeys have take over the zoo. By publishing this absurdity on Wikipedia you are very seriously turning Wikipedia into a farce... Stevenmitchell (talk) 20:36, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Actually au contraire, as this shows the term has been widely used by scholarly books for over a century, and continues to be used, and hence per WP:Common name it is exactly the right term to use. And the material in the article is now fully supported by over 100 WP:RS scholarly sources, as Wikipedia policies suggest and require. Material that is discussed in multiple WP:RS sources is proper to use, and enhances the quality of Wikipedia. History2007 (talk) 20:50, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

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Early Galilean ministry

The article states that "a few villages in Galilee have been suggested as the location of Cana; and then that this first miracle took place BEFORE he returned there. Mannanan51 (talk) 22:08, 27 November 2012 (UTC)Mannanan51

Please fix it. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 22:39, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Fourteen year ministry (14 years)?

Decades ago, I read something about Jesus's ministry lasting for 14/fourteen years. I found nothing like this mentioned in the article. Does anyone know where such information or such a tradition comes from? Source? Misty MH (talk) 13:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)