Talk:Maya calendar/Archives/2010/August

These calendars can be synchronized...

"These calendars can be synchronized and interlocked, their combinations giving rise to further, more extensive cycles." This sentence has bugged me for a long time. This is vague and confusing. Who synchronizes and interlocks them? What further, more extensive cycles? What was the author talking about? The only authors that do this are whackos like Callemans and Arguelles, who do this to invent their own new pseudo-Mayan calendars. I'd like to see this sentence removed. Senor Cuete (talk) 18:52, 25 November 2009 (UTC)Senor Cuete

Nobody objected to this proposed edit for three weeks so I went ahead and made it. Senor Cuete (talk) 00:25, 17 December 2009 (UTC)Senor Cuete

"I’m going to show you a graphic of how these two work together. This is the 260-day (Tzolkin) calendar and here is the 360-day (Tun/"Long Count"). This is the Tzolkin, and that is the Tun and each day on this calendar (Tzolkin) is like a tooth on a gear and there are 260 of them. And right here there are 360 days on the Tun calendar. As this calendar (Tzolkin) turns in this direction (counter-clockwise), it in turn revolves this calendar (Tun in a clockwise rotation). It goes in large cycles. This one (Tzolkin) goes around and around, and this one (Tun) goes around in 360 day increments. Every 52 revolutions of this calendar (Tun), these two teeth match back up. When that happened, it was a very special time in the Mayan civilization. To show you how seriously they took all of this, every 52 Tun they would have a celebration; a big celebration wherein the night before they would put out every fire and every spark in their whole entire civilization. Every bit of fire was extinguished. And was re-lit at the temples the next morning and then distributed by the priests to the people and by runners to the villages. And they spread fire throughout their whole civilization once again. All debts were absolved and they started all over." - quote from Ian Xel Lungold's DVD, Mayan Calendar Comes North. Its all relatives (talk) 08:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Ian "Xel" Lungold is not a reliable source. In his lectures he used the completely incorrect Maya calendrics of another fringe "researcher" - Callemans. The "Tun calendar" is a modern made-up invention of Callemans. The rituals you describe did happen, just not at the end of anything in the fictitious "Tun calendar" that Callemans invented. These things happened in the Aztec empire at the end of a Calendar Round completion. The authors of this article fight a never-ending battle to exclude new-age dis-information from inclusion in the article. Please don't edit the article to include the bizarre theories of modern spiritualists like, Lungold, Callemans and Arguelles. Senor Cuete (talk) 12:55, 13 August 2010 (UTC)Senor Cuete