Talk:Martin Luther King Jr. Day/Archive 1

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Most schools?

Additionally most schools and places of higher education are closed for classes

really? the (private) college I went to never closed for this day, nor did the ones (public or private) I remember my friends attending. I haven't been in college for a couple years, but I certainly don't get it off of work either. Yeah, I know, the plural of "anecdote" is not "data", but I always thought this was mainly a gov't and public high/elementary school day off... above Columbus Day in importance (as measured in the units of "number of people getting school/work off" :) ), a little bit below President's Day (which I never got off in college either), and way below the other federal holidays.

Acheron 15:32, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I feel the same way. I'm going to go ahead adn change it to read "some" schools. We can add back in a stronger statement if evidence can be found—there are probably statistics on this somewhere. (Perhaps "most public schools" would be more accurate. My college was private and we didn't cancel classes for anything.) [[User:Aranel|Aranel ("Sarah")]] 15:37, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I've found lots of public school websites that announce that they are closed for MLK Day, but sometimes they will also state that they will have classes on that day if they need to make up days (from snow days, I suppose): [1]. [[User:Aranel|Aranel ("Sarah")]]

Acheron, I've always been comparing holidays as to "number of people off" and I think you are spot on! However, I'm noticing that MLK Day and President's Day are switching in this sense (we were closed today and not for MLK, but a lot of our clients did the reverse for the first time this year), so I noted that.

hairymon 23:59, 20 Feb 2006 (UTC)

AZ, Public Enemy, and MLK Day

Should we talk about the row between Public Enemy and Arizona after it refused to approve MLK Day? I recall they refused to perform in AZ until the holiday got passed and wrote a song about it. Hoshie 07:03, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The song is called "By The Time I Get To Arizona" and is on the 1992 album. .~.

Day name

I have always heard it called Martin Luther King Jr. Day. After all, it isn't named after his father. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.157.77.156 (talk • contribs) 04:32, 20 October 2005.

This doesn't ring true to me; is there any confirmation? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 23:27, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I've heard it called both. --FuriousFreddy 00:08, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Fair enough; it was just that I'd never heard it that way. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:06, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

From Alaska Statute 22.10.050: (3) The third Monday of January, known as Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Birthday

Maybe your state is different, but in AK the holiday is in honor of MLK Jr., not Sr. Perhaps the page should be moved? --VonWoland 21:36, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

What's the deal with the info box listing MLK having an aka of "N*gger Day?" Even though it's noted as being a racial slur. And why can't that be edited out?

NPOV?

Is the new paragraph about Jesse Helms' opposition POV? Nick 20:29, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

My mistake

I added the change, and I accidentally put the word "honest" instead of "honor" which I guess could be interpreted as POV. I changed the wording.

• Is it NPOV to say that Helms accused MLKjr of being a Communist Sympathiser? Didn't Helms say that about everyone he disliked? Nick 07:55, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

• I think that is POV in your views on Helms. Regardless of what you think about Helms, he was a very prominent US Senator and led the opposition to the bill. No one is saying "martin luther king is a communist sympathizer." Rather that Jesse Helms, a figure pivotal in the history of the Holiday thought that.

On another note, I have on multiple occasions put up two external links. One was the text of said Helms speech and the other was an article by Sam Francis critical of the Holiday. Francis was an aid to Sen. John East during the passage of the King Holiday and wrote said infamous speech, so he is in a position to tlk about the Holiday. I think both of these are significant enough to be included, and it is absurd to say it is point of view by linking to them, because it is made clear that this is their opinion and they are hostile to the piece. I have seen links to hundreds of opinion articles and speeches in favor or opposed to some person/bill/philosophy etc. that are in the links and no one would sugges that they are point of view.

if a national leader makes a claim such as this, it is noteworthy. Kingturtle 21:23, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

King quotes

I saw something in a newspaper about a seminar for students dealing with modern work/class loads and how to manage petty injustices of life based upon King. This is not an exact quote, First we must discern justice from injustice, purge ourselves and then act. The page would be more enlightening if it included what he actually said and did. ledge

• That sounds like something better suited to the page on King himself.

Current Event?

Are all "holidays" listed as "current events" every time they occur? Doesn't matter, just strikes me as someone addicted to time based scripts.

• Yeah, that tag doesn't seem right to me either.

arizona?

didn't arizona refuse at one time to honor this holiday? and so the NFL threatened not to play a superbowl there? Kingturtle 07:41, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

See Evan Mecham. --Darksasami 04:39, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

'All 50 states' date?

Martin Luther King, Jr. says 1993, but here it says 1999. So, anybody know which is correct? 24.17.48.241 06:15, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Michael Jackson?

Michael Jackson, or as this article spells his name, Micheal, Did not release "Happy Birthday". The ENTIRE thing was done by Stevie Wonder. Even the link to the song says so.

--208.247.50.2 15:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC)==Infobox==

Why doesn't the image of King show up in the infobox? --Uncle Ed 19:08, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Why is the infobox orange and yellow? Is there some symbolic reason (like Saint Patrick's Day), or because someone liked the colors? --Transfinite 02:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Number of "individual person" Federal holidays

and one of only three to commemorate an individual person

Aren't there four holidays commemorating individuals? 1) Birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr. 2) Washington's Birthday 3) Columbus Day 4) Christmas Day

Is Washington's birthday excluded due to the fact that other presidents are sometimes included in the observance?

Yes, there are four. Two for U.S. Citizens (Washington and King) and two for non-Citizens (Columbus and Jesus Christ). I have made the change to the article with an appropriate reference to the United States Code. — Eoghanacht ^talk 19:27, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

That would be a great trivia question btw; I'll bet few would think of Christmas Day. --ScottAlanHill 22:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)