Talk:Louise Boursier/GA2

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Reviewer: Femkemilene (talk · contribs) 21:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for working on this article!

• I don't find mention of Hôtel-Dieu de Paris in the Guardian clipping. The Louise Bourgeois (1563–1636): royal midwife of France source does mention this, but indicates it's not certain she attended.

 Done provided Whaley source reference page 103, was one of the first graduates of the school for midwives established at the Hotel Dieu hospital.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:41, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

• She was raised in upper middle-class circumstances and received an education customary of the children of families of that class. Not quite verified by the source. It says affluent, and good education. Was it common for women to get a good education at the time? The sources doesn't say.

 Done Copy edited accordingly. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 23:14, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

• The same source is used to support that she lived close to Boursier, which it also doesn't state (it only mentions they met and they married).

 Done Provided P.M. Dunn source with quote.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

At first reading, I'm concerned with the level of text-source integrity. As it's a short article, this is fixable. Could you have another check of your sources? The academic sources seem to indicate more uncertainty about her life than the Wikipedia article. I don't have access to the books. FemkeMilene (talk) 21:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

• I'm getting a 404 error trying to follow the link in FN6. FemkeMilene (talk) 09:00, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

• @Femkemilene: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

I asked you to revisit your sourcing? Are you telling me there aren't any further mistakes, when 3/4 of the sources I checked did not support the sentence? Which sources specifically did you recheck? FemkeMilene (talk) 12:08, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

• Yes. I checked the sources and they seem to support the sentence where referenced. I'll double check again to see which sentences you may be referring to where the source does not support the sentence.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:42, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

  Great. Just to be clear, I'm asking you to check all 25 citations, or near to it. Large source-text integrety issues are a reason to quick-fail.

  • Consistent French or English spelling of Henry.
  • Please put french words in the lang template (example in history article), for accessibility. Are you sure livres is the correct translation of crown? The french wiki speaks of couronnes.
  • I'm seeing more WP:close paraphrasing, as noticed in the previous GAN: source: Between 1601 and 1610, in which year the King was assassinated, six children were born to Marie, all attended by Louise (WP: Between 1601 and 1610 (when Henri IV was killed) six children were born to Marie de' Medici, all assisted by Bourgeois). Did you check the entire article for this issue? As this issue has not been solved, I'm quick-failing this nomination.
  • FN18, p23 doesn't support that 300 livres was a reasonable pension..
  • There was a Latin edition used until the 1700s -> the source doesn't single out the latin version
  • FN1 has a translation of the title. The translation given (the sterility) is poor English.
  • Did she only write one book which was expanded multiple times (as you now imply). I don't think the sources say this. FemkeMilene (talk) 14:51, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

• @Femkemilene: I double checked all the references and they support the sentence referenced. Can you be specific which sentence you feel is not supported by the referece.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:31, 13 February 2021 (UTC)