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Quiche

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Latest comment: 19 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

--205.188.117.65 09:48, 31 October 2005 (UTC)I was told there was a Quiche, Vermont.....is there and if so, where? Thank you!Reply

It's called Quechee, Vermont. It's a village in the town of Hartford, Vermont and The Wikipedia page for Hartford includes a map that shows its location. Jessamyn 14:26, 31 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Remove cities and gores?

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Latest comment: 18 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I'd like to remove the cities from the main list, as well as the list of gores. Each has their own list/page. --Thetrick 09:04, 11 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Sounds like a good idea, although since there are a very small number of them, they could be included, split out separately at the bottom of this page as well since people outside of Vermont may not have any idea of the difference between a city and a town (and I know that I don't know myself sometimes). In any case, I think that would be a good idea in some fashion. Jessamyn (talk) 13:06, 11 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Remove this page and turn into a redirect?

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Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

If this page just redirected to Category:Towns_in_Vermont its content would be kept up to date automaticly. This list seems superfluous to me. Can anybody think of a reason not to do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mickmaguire (talk • contribs) 20:34, June 28, 2006

Sortable Wikitable

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Latest comment: 7 years ago4 comments4 people in discussion

I changed the table to be sortable table as I thought that would be much more helpful for someone trying to find quick information like, "what's the largest town in Vermont." Anyhow, I tried to do this but as you will notice, the Populations and Areas do not sort correctly. Can anyone fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gopats92 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 5 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Could this be done with the "Nts" parameter? Quite a job though, if it has to be manually added to each entry... 82.141.74.36 (talk) 20:12, 11 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
I think the problem is with the rankings in parentheses. If these were removed, the table should sort correctly. The rankings could be added as a column on the left-hand side. Likewise, the areas in km^2 could be another column. AD ASTRA SCIENTIA (talk) 06:29, 22 December 2011 (UTC)Reply
I've designated the Area column as numeric so it sorts properly, set it to do the metric conversion automatically, and broke the area rank out into a separate column for cleanliness. Also added 2010 populations from U.S. Census data. The population ranks went missing somewhere along the line, and should probably be re-added as a separate column, but it's a pain, so I'm not doing it tonight. I'm not sure if the 2000 Census population column should be removed... I superseded it with more recent data, but being able to see the delta might be useful to somebody. The PDF links in the first column appear to all be broken, and should be either removed or updated, but I'm not sure which, and not sure where to find updated versions. 72.95.119.18 (talk) 07:00, 10 July 2017 (UTC)Reply
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Merger proposal

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Latest comment: 1 year ago16 comments7 people in discussion

This article and List of cities in Vermont should be merged into one article, to be consistent with most other states. Dylanvt (talk) 17:36, 7 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

I agree. Which is funny because I can see me above in 2006 suggesting the opposite. Maybe some asterisk or indicator that the cities are cities? Jessamyn (talk) 14:59, 8 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
For most other states there is a column next to the name of the municipality listing the type of municipality. See for example List of municipalities in Connecticut. Dylanvt (talk) 15:38, 8 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Good point, I think that's a fine argument for putting them together. Jessamyn (talk) 02:16, 10 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Is this one of those thing where you need people to agree? Because I agree too. H0n0r (talk) 10:13, 10 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

I don't know if it is; I was just following the steps on here, and I'm definitely not good enough with tables to do it myself. There are also several states that need this done, so I'm sure someone else can take care of it. Dylanvt (talk) 16:20, 11 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
I may be able to combine those pages and make a good redirect for them. I think what needs to happen is the cities need to be brought in to this table and a redirect set up from the old one and the title to this page changed? Jessamyn (talk) 18:56, 11 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I think that's it, though I believe incorporated villages should be included, too. As for gores I'm not sure, since I don't think they're incorporated municipalities. Dylanvt (talk) 16:08, 22 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by villages. I think what basically amount to neighborhoods (i.e. part of a larger town, like Randolph Center and East Randolph that are both part of Randolph) shouldn't be split out, but maybe listed elsewhere? My gut feeling is Vermont has 251 towns/cities, so this list should have 251 things on it and then the other stuff can be in a separate list and/or other page and this page should be "Vermont's Towns and Cities" (and I'd add gores just because they're on a map and why not) Jessamyn (talk) 15:47, 23 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
It appears some villages are incorporated municipalities, and should be included in the merged list. See Village (Vermont). -- Beland (talk) 22:59, 23 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yeah it's a little confusing because the villages are both incorporated in a weird way but also don't have geographical boundaries that aren't wholly within the town. I live in a village like this. It has its own taxing structure (i.e. a small fraction of a percent higher than the rest of the town) and some infrastructure that doesn't exist in the larger town (i.e. sewer). At the same time, it's not a town. I think for people who live anywhere else but Vermont would see the town as the primary sub-entity and then the page for the town can have information on the incorporated municipalities. Vermont villages are basically a sub-town within a town, but they are not really recognized as distinct entities at a state level (i.e. Vermont has 251 towns according to most listings) This list on Wikipedia can incorporate these additional facts while at the same time not make a list longer and more confusing for a thing that isn't a thing outside of Vermont. Jessamyn (talk) 03:20, 24 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yes, this does seem to be correct. I don't think villages manage elections, for example, and the state doesn't seem to count them when looking at second-level (sub-county) divisions. The list should probably just include towns and cities. Dylanvt (talk) 05:11, 31 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
I agree also - merge the towns and cities into one list. Include gores also. This would encompass the whole geographic area of the state into non-intersecting regions.
We just need to have a column (preferably) or indicator to show what type of region is being described.
The Vermont Center for Geographic Information (https://vcgi.vermont.gov/maps) has some excellent resources.
If this is still an issue of interest, I'll volunteer to combine the two lists. Rpwt (talk) 21:23, 17 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
I looked at every state and territory page for city links yesterday and can confirm that Vermont is the only state that has their locations broken up in this manner. I would suggest merging the cities and "List" table in to a single, sortable table and have sections discussing the aspects of each. You can demarcate the type of location within the table.
I'm also willing to help with this merger. Mbach138 (talk) 11:12, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Great, let's do it! Jessamyn (my talk page) 21:50, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

If anyone who was involved in this discussion wants to help their neighbors who also have this weird town-village system, there is a similar discussion happening at Talk:List of municipalities in New York § Towns. Apocheir (talk) 01:48, 20 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

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