Talk:List of current monarchies

Latest comment: 10 months ago by 95.24.70.229 in topic Eswatini and Qatar

North Korea edit

As of 2013, North Korea officially amended its laws such that the Kim bloodline must rule the country and the 'communist' party. As it is usually considered to be a De Facto Absolute Monarchy, self-defines as a Constitutional Monarchy (like the UK, except completely different!), is now legally a Hereditary Monarchy, and is often referred to as "The Hermit Kingdom" by outsiders, it should be listed here.

NK is constitutionally defined as a people's republic, so no it shouldn't. There are other dictatorships inherited within a family (the Bongos in Gabon, the Assads in Syria etc.). It's a different phenomenon as long as the dictator doesn't have themselves crowned (like e.g. happened in Persia and Albania early in the 20th century).--Batmacumba (talk) 10:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Andorra edit

Andorra is a diarchy, not a monarchy. Shouldn't it be removed from the list, strictly speaking? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.178.195.218 (talk) 13:03, 21 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

A monarchy can be a organized as a diarchy. Andorra is a princpality, where the monarchial powers are divided between two Princes.--Batmacumba (talk) 10:40, 19 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Other Governments edit

Let’s here link the lists of other types of governments still in power around the world. Here link other Wiki articles about current dictatorships, socialist/communist countries, types of democracies/republics, etc. PhoenixEagle007 (talk) 03:25, 3 April 2020 (UTC) Luke L - Phx, AZ - shoutout to Scouting which brought me hereReply

Types of monarchy edit

In the text you can read (european countries) "are fully democratic states", which by definition is wrong. No country can be "fully democratic" while the highest office is not up for election. In fact, some of these countries prioritise the succession of men rather then women, which again, goes against the most basic human rights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.136.36.190 (talk) 16:24, 2 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

It's debatable because the monarchs usually hold a ceremonious role and so on that basis all "actual" highest offices in the European countries would be up for election. Altanner1991 (talk) 06:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Poland edit

Polish parliament have literally elected a King of Poland. Jesus Christ. This makes Poland technically a monarchy, a rather strange one at that. MCMax05 (talk) 19:05, 22 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Poland has a long history of elected kings, but if this "election" is true, we still don't know if the "King elect" have formally accepted his election? Oleryhlolsson (talk) 19:39, 22 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan edit

The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is of course an elective monarchy, because before the Taliban came to power, all the emirates and countries whose heads of state were Emir/Amir were monarchies, and there is no reason to treat this new country as an exception.

Source? - Ryk72 talk 11:19, 15 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
An emirate is not necessarily a monarchy. Emir is a title which can mean Prince, Commander, leader or governor. It’s use as a royal title is a more modern invention. Currently, Hibatullah Akhundzada has not been formally given any official position within the transitional government. It is also important to note that during the 1996-2001 period, Mullah Omar’s title as head of state was not emir, but Head of the Supreme Council. Amir-al-muminin was a religious honourary title. - Lord Dim 1 talk 21:02, 15 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Is Amir al-Mu'minin of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan "Prince of the Believers" or "Prince of the Faith"?
It is usually not translated as Prince, but as Commander. The usual translation of Amir Al-Mu’minin as used by the Taliban is “Commander of the Faithful”. - Lord Dim 1 talk 16:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply
Why? Some people think that because Afghanistan’s "Amir al-Mu'minin" is not hereditary, it is not a monarchy. However, the Vatican City State is also not hereditary and is classified as an elective monarchy. So why can't the new Afghan government be classified as an elective monarchy Like the Vatican City State?
Please provide reliable sources which describe theIslamic Emirate of Afghanistan as a monarchy. Without them, this is all original research; which we do not use as the basis of our articles. - Ryk72 talk 23:21, 16 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

COLOURS! edit

Could we change Commonwealth nations' colour on the map to BRIGHT green? The present one is almost undistinguishable from the dark green of the other constitutional monarchies. Slamazzar (talk) 22:10, 6 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

An update to Barbados and Bhutan edit

So Barbados recently changed from a monarchy to republic, but on the map it’s still listed as being a part of the commonwealth realm, so that needs to be updated.

Regarding Bhutan, it’s labeled on the map as a dark green monarchy, or one where the monarchy has limited power. However other parts of the site label it as semi constitutional, or orange on the map. Can that possibly get changed too? ICommandeth 12:27, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Well I figured out how to edit the picture and upload a new version of it, but it still hasn’t updated for some reason. Did I do something wrong or does it have to be approved by someone? Any help is appreciated! ICommandeth 04:13, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Bolivia edit

Why is Bolivia marked as ‘other sub national monarchies’ on the map? 64.53.244.99 (talk) 13:18, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

I wonder if this vandalism. AzusaProf (talk) 23:17, 10 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Because Bolivia has the Afro-Bolivian monarchy, which is a state-recognised monarchy for the Afro-Bolivian community - Lord Dim 1 talk 19:56, 16 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

March 2023 edit

@ICommandeth: since you removed the term "semi-constitutional" from a number of articles (reverted for now), I'm starting this discussion for you to seek consensus for such change. M.Bitton (talk) 20:36, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hello, thanks for this.
The reason I removed the term was because on the Jordan talk page, there's some people who object to the term since it doesn't have widespread usage. That seemed to be the case, so I made the change to make things consistent across the site. So either one of two things can happen: we either convince the people monitoring Jordan's page to add the semi-constitutional label back, or we change every other page to match Jordan's. ICommandeth 05:15, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Eswatini and Qatar edit

Is Eswatini really more absolute than Qatar? --95.24.70.229 (talk) 07:12, 10 June 2023 (UTC)Reply