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Hi, it has been announced this week that Detective Conan manga have now sold over 200 million copies worldwide, please update the article. Here's the confirmed source: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-04-18/detective-conan-creator-various-manga-have-200-million-copies-in-print/.114956 94.204.243.0 (talk) 13:28, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Done I also noticed that you added this figure to Case Closed but did not cite the source. (I was about to revert those edits for that specific reason.) I will fix that for you, but remember to always cited a source for any figure in the future. —Farix (t | c) 13:32, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

@TheFarix: That source says "Gosho Aoyama's various manga series have a combined 200 million copies in print worldwide." While obviously Detective Conan is probably almost all of that, we can't treat it as selling all 200 million itself. Doesn't that go against the "Cite check" tag that you yourself added to the page. Xfansd (talk) 21:20, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

You are right. I didn't read the article carefully enough. Undoing the edit then. —Farix (t | c) 21:42, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Adding sources together

Latest comment: 7 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

How literal are we going to take the "Do not combine material from multiple sources" wording at WP:SYNTH? Reborn! adds a Comipress source with several Oricon ones, so that violates SYNTH. But Haikyū!!, Magi, and The Seven Deadly Sins add Oricon's yearly charts together. So each source has the exact same reliable publisher, and each source/year picks up the count exactly where the previous one left off (the very next day). Are any of these three acceptable? Xfansd (talk) 16:20, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

It's probably an artifact from Vicky's edits where s/he combined multiple sources to come up with figures that weren't published in any of them. It should be narrowed down to the figure cited in the most recent source. —Farix (t | c) 18:38, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Sales clarification

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Are the sales worldwide, Japan only, or is the list comprised of mixed? DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 08:45, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

I'd say they are probably all worldwide. Although I can't read Japanese, I assume the Japanese sources are also worldwide. I say that simply because I don't see why they would not include foreign sales unless the series didn't sell much outside Japan, in which case not including that small number doesn't really effect anything. But the truth is we won't always know which they are giving, I think that is one of the reasons why lists like this say to use the "highest sales estimate reported"; i.e. if a source says a series sold "between 20-22 million", we use 22 million. Xfansd (talk) 17:29, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Right. I plan on going on articles and adding something like Case Closed is the fifth top selling manga in the world, while linking to this article. I'm going to assume it's world and not Japan. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 04:00, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I believe figure for a number of entries are Japan-only, unless otherwise stated. That's how Japanese media I read usually report this type of numbers. Actually, some source given in the list aren't even adding up all the sell from the series in Japan, and only account for part of it, which some of them like the figure for NANA have only taken sell from 1554 shops across Japan into account, and for the source 歴代発行部数ランキング which have been used to cite multiple items, including Ranma ½, it treat different edition separately and only include the number for "new/refreshed edition"C933103 (talk) 20:59, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Case Closed has 150 million sales. This seems to be his sales in Japan. However Pokémon Adventures in Japan only 12000000 sales, which makes the difference between them from the sales actually. Lucas two (talk) 16:32, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

I don't know what you're saying there, but based on your edit summary to the article you claim the info is incorrect because one is worldwide while the other is just Japan. The content in this article is constantly changing, that is why the very first thing you see on the page is "This is a dynamic list and may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness." There is not just one single authoritative source giving the sales of every series. Therefore, just like how we will not know if some of these numbers are the number of copies printed or the number actually sold, we also will not always know if the number is worldwide or just Japan. This article will never be perfect. And actually the same website used for the Pokeman's worldwide sales says Case Closed's over 140 million number is worldwide also 1 so. Xfansd (talk) 17:57, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

There could possibly be two different columns, one domestic and one international, or would that be complicated? 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 08:15, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

One Piece Figures

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One Piece's current figures appear to be much higher than what is currently listed. While the page currently sites it as 320 million in circulation, the actual figure appears to be 380 million in circulation. If these sites are correct, someone who is better at editing than me should make those changes. Citation (Simply Google Search if more citations are needed). — Preceding unsigned comment added by DreamRedux (talk • contribs) 20:09, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

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