Talk:List of New Romantics/Archive 1

November 2008

Ref and Accuracy Tags

It's a new article so I've been generous and not nominated it for deletion yet, although it is a candidate and needs an accuracy proof. It is unreferenced and inaccurate and appears to be totally WP:OR. Some of the artists listed do not belong here; a previous List of New Romantic Artists was deleted for this reason. Editors are to check each article for conflicting consensus before listing a artist here, if it becomes another free for all then it will be WP:AFD.andi064 ^{T . C} 14:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I added Dubious flags to the worst offenders. Not exlusive as I dont know some of the artists listed here and dont have time to look them all up. Some articles say that artist was specifically not new romantic, yet it is still listed, seems someone dosnt know diferance between new wave and new romantic? 92.41.91.175 (talk) 19:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh for God's sake, DELETE this crap article. It is truly ridiculous, totally inaccurate, and obviously made by people who clearly have NO IDEA what the New Romantic movement was (they tend to confuse NR with 80s synthpop). Tears For Fears were NOTHING to do with the NR movement. EVER!79.66.34.161 (talk) 03:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I can see Tears For Fears tagged as not being a New Romantic band. But Thompson Twins would pass muster, and Culture Club was about as New Romantic as you could get. Remember, NR is not the same as "synthpop", but there is a lot of overlap. Deprod. Squidfryerchef (talk) 05:58, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't see how the Thompson Twins would pass as NR either. They were a dance/pop new wave band and wild and wacky haircuts alone don't equal NR. Culture Club possibly, but more Boy George rather than the band itself.79.66.40.77 (talk) 05:13, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, New Romantic as I understand it was as much a fashion style as a music style. It was usually synthpop but there were exceptions like Adam Ant. New Wave is an even more inclusive term, and depending on the speaker can include almost any style that suddenly became popular between 1979 and 1983. Squidfryerchef (talk) 06:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

New Romanticism wasn't a musical style at all, it was a fashion movement and visual style that involved make-up and ostentatious, flamboyant clothing that was reminiscent of the classical Romanticism period of history (late 18th/19th century). The music that Visage were making (electro/synthpop) was totally different from that of Adam and the Ants - so you can't consider it a musical style. As for Thompson Twins - definitely not. You can't compare the New Romantic movement with genres such as punk because punk was both music (punk rock) and a visual style.GoldCoaster (talk) 15:16, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

John Foxx

Listen "The Garden" album —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.232.221.46 (talk) 23:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Something In The Air

OK, that genre is less identified with that bands. Depeche Mode, John Foxx (Metamatic era), Ultravox (post-Ha! Ha! Ha! era), Numan, Human League and Soft Cell says something like "We are synthpop or electronic artists", but it seems the only New Ro artists are that people who played in that Billy's and Blitz club.

New Ro were that people who combined synthpop or synthesizer based-rhythms with rock or pop (the latter influenced heavily by glam or bubblegum artists like Glitter Band), plus often or sometimes Jazz and soul. Both Spandau Ballet and early Level 42 combined all that rythms, however i can't understand why the latter band is questioned. The same thing i say about Thompson Twins, they are combining synthpop with pop rythms. The New Romantics also depends of posh wearing or look, and good presence, like Duran Duran and Japan. John Foxx (post-"Metamatic") and Simple Minds (the 1981 album along "Promised You A Miracle"), for example had all that previous things i wrote. Classix Nouveaux, Japan or Tears For Fears never were Blitzy, but that doesn't make they aren't New Romantics.

Howard Devoto songs like "Rainy Season", during his short-lived solo artist era, are very poppy along the piano of Dave Formula. As soloist, he was New Romantic (or a bit). The rest are undergound.

The Ants were wearing that XVII century clothes during the "Prince Charming" era. During that time they played many happy-pop with electric drums. For this reason i am saying the Ants are New Ro. Don't mention the previous and more-rocking materials of "Dirk Wears..." or "Kings of the Wild Frontier".

Think more than one time.

And New Romantic is a New Wave subgenre, like Post-punk or industrial.

It is blatantly obvious you have absolutely NO IDEA what "New Romantic" actually was.79.66.15.143 (talk) 01:48, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

This guy is right just because they didnt go clubbing at The Blitz doesnt mean they are not New Romantics. Duran Duran is another band that didnt go clubbing at the Blitz and they are known to be the most commercially successful band that era. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.87.6.102 (talk) 07:13, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

This guy is not right at all. New Romantics had a very particular visual style which involved make-up and flamboyant clothing reminscent of the "romantic" period of history (where do you think the term "new romantic" comes from?). I did not say it was necessarily restricted to The Blitz club, although that is where it was created. Bands like Duran adopted the visual style themselves for their first album ONLY, but we're talking about bandwagon-jumping here. Tears For Fears for example were nothing to do with the New Romantic movement, and to even suggest they were shows a total lack of understanding about what New Romantics were.79.66.41.217 (talk) 23:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Depeche Mode

Depeche Mode weren't New Romantics. their 1st album was poppy-synth. They were purely synth.

Only Boy George

Why was Boy George a new ro artist? He went to Blitz, but that doesn't make he was a new romantic before Culture Club. He began famous with that band.

Boy George (and Marilyn) was part of the Blitz scene prior to Culture Club and was part of that club's New Romantic set before he became famous in late 1982. However, Boy George himself is not Culture Club and the band themselves were not New Romantics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.123.245 (talk) 06:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Soft Cell

There is are a couple of interviews one being on youtube where Marc Almond of Soft Cell states he was a New Romantic. on Youtube there is documentary on the New Romantic movement where he is interviewed and also states that he was apart of the New Romantic Scene. And not all New Romantic groups clubbed at The BLitz like Duran Duran who went out in the Rum Runner club. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.87.6.102 (talk) 05:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Proof please.79.66.42.217 (talk) 11:49, 18 December 2008 (UTC)