Talk:List of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic episodes/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

New proof of 26 episodes.

Remember back on April 1, 2013 when Meghan McCarthy joked fake episode summaries from Season 4? She gave fake summaries for exactly 26 episodes. Here's synopsis #25 and 26. Links to the rest of her tweets can be found here. While the content of her tweets was obviously a joke, taken together, this is extremely strong evidence, short of asking her directly, that Season 4 has 26 episodes. dogman15 (talk) 10:44, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Since it was made jokingly (on April 1st, no less) it is pretty much impossible to consider that reliable, since the storylines were clearly not real. --MASEM (t) 14:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

She was joking about the content of those episodes, not the number of episodes that there were. dogman15 (talk) 18:43, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it is evidence. You made an argument that, while not very strong, still supports your thesis. But it doesn't matter here. Even if we could construct a formal proof of existence of 26 episodes, worthy of Quinque viae or proof that infinitely many of prime numbers exist, it would be worthless here. Worthless, because it would violate Wikipedia:No original research. Is that clear? --Martynas Patasius (talk) 19:30, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, as far as the rest of the internet is concerned, independent of the stuffiness of this room, season 4 has 26 episodes, by many points of logic. The only thing that will sway you, I believe, is an explicit tweet from Meghan, Jayson, or someone else on the show stating there's 26 episodes. dogman15 (talk) 19:56, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

OK, let's try it like this:

1. Have you read Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view? If you have not - go and read.
2. Do you understand what they say? If you are not sure - ask me. Here or on my talk page.
3. Do you think that they are completely correct? Do you wholeheartedly accept those policies? If you do not, once again - give me the arguments and I will try to persuade you.

For it is not good to edit Wikipedia while rejecting its basic policies. It will be frustrating both for you and for everyone else (feel free to have a look at Wikipedia:Wikiheresy if you would like to get more arguments - it is merely my essay, but it is rather detailed). And if you accept those policies then yes, you will have to accept that an authoritative source is necessary - and neither you nor me are such sources. Even something that looks obvious (for example, "Fluttershy is not portrayed as completely evil in the series.") needs an authoritative source.

Finally, "Well, as far as the rest of the internet is concerned, independent of the stuffiness of this room" - well, "the rest of the internet" is not dedicated to performing literature reviews, summarising the authoritative sources without adding anything else. Different goals - different means - different results. --Martynas Patasius (talk) 21:00, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, wasn't this decided on a while ago? What happened to that PDF document that everyone (seemed) to agree on at the time? --Yellow1996 (talk) 01:31, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

The PDF was Daniel Ingram's resume that was taken down shortly after bronies discovered the 91 episode (read: 26 in S4) number. Thus the verifiability of that statement can't apply. I'm sure it's 26, but there's no DEADLINE until we can verify it. --MASEM (t) 03:51, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh, okay then. Thanks for clearing that up for me. --Yellow1996 (talk) 18:56, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Merge back?

I sort of regret taking action as to give each season its own article, as the articles by themselves aren't really holding well as far as notability is concerned (references are barley there, and are few and far in between compared to all seasons being integrated within one page), and it's dubious if I will ever provide the sufficient references, or that sufficient enough references will surface, so that other editors can integrate them into the article and promote it to decent status. Whisternefet (talk | contribs) 08:30, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Strong Oppose!!! - I see that you are mainly basing this on amount of references and the articles' class. In all actuality, classes shouldn't determine whether an article should exist or not; especially in this case. They aren't stubs are they? And even if they were, there's nowhere on the class rating page that says "an article must always be consistently going up the ranks; if it is static at a low one then it should be removed". If you feel that you cannot provide the sufficient references, then step back - it's not all your responsibility. References will surely pop up later on; and even if they don't for a long time these are still decent articles that are certainly worth keeping. --Yellow1996 (talk) 15:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Episode numbers

The "Elements of Harmony" guidebook gives episode numbers as season/episode order like : 101, 201, 301 (and to note that Just for Sidekicks is 311, Games Ponies Play is 312). I suggest we use these given that the book is as close to official as we'll get. -MASEM (t) 18:05, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. The <season>0<episode#> style of numbering is pretty common on official media for many shows I've seen in the past. Confused me at first (how are they already at 100 episodes?! etc) but then I got it! ;) --Yellow1996 (talk) 19:25, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

More than 13 episodes in Season 4.

Sabrina Alberghetti made this tweet, referencing episode 415, or the 15th episode of Season 4. That means that there are more than 13 episodes this season, and thus we can conclude that there must be 26 episodes, combined with all other past evidence. I rest my case. dogman15 (talk) 02:22, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, we can make such conclusion. But not as Wikipedians. Wikipedia:No original research, remember..? --Martynas Patasius (talk) 03:20, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Rrrrrgh! Yes, I know! That doesn't make me like it, though. dogman15 (talk) 10:25, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, by itself, it is only important to obey the policies, not to like them. But perhaps I could show you why we have Wikipedia:No original research... For example, would you like a "guided tour" through the archives of Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard..? --Martynas Patasius (talk) 12:58, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I took the liberty to undo this edit by Dogman. Explained my choice in the summary; we don't even know whether Will is working on other shows, so that post is far from being a good source for our purpose. -- / Kàmina / 15:09, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Frothing. dogman15 (talk) 01:07, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Though it's highly likely, Kamina's right - it never explicitly states "MLP" (I know this is pretty rediculous and I'd love to just put 26 and be done with it as I've stated before, a few threads up IIRC but we have to comply with Wikipedia's rules...) --.Yellow1996.^(ЬMИED¡) 17:38, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Fish paste, tartar sauce, barnacles, and fiddlesticks. dogman15 (talk) 18:17, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Wait I guess there's WP:IAR... --.Yellow1996.^(ЬMИED¡) 18:24, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

WP:IAR only works if you have a good reason. "I don't like the rules" or "I want to do something that rules forbid" are not examples of such reasons. --Martynas Patasius (talk) 19:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah; I meant it in a semi-joking way, probably should have made that more clear. Indeed WP:IAR wouldn't work in this case because we will eventually get an RS confirming the episode number (which without a doubt will be 26...) and quickening the process without an RS citing IAR wouldn't qualify as a good reason to break the rules. --.Yellow1996.^(ЬMИED¡) 02:56, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

On the contrary, I actually am quite fond of IAR in this situation. dogman15 (talk) 05:34, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring on "Future Seasons" section

Information on future seasons branding was added and subsequently modified. There seems to be an edit war concerning this (see the history before 2014 February 20 02:00 UTC). I've warned the unregistered editor (2001:5b0:2aff/48) twice (first time and second time), and the three-revert rule is close to being violated.

I'm just about ready to report this to the edit warring noticeboard if no one else starts talking about this. Edit summaries are lacking; what seems to be the issue? (This would be for the unregistered editor, who performed the first reversion.) Is it reliable sourcing? I know there have been some issues with Equestria Daily as a source before. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 01:24, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Season 5 WP:BALL

Do we actually need an empty placeholder for season 5 here, before any information is known? I suggest removing it. User332572385 (talk) 16:00, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

We have sources that affirm it is in production from Hasbro (not just the animation studio), so this is not an evocation of crystal balling, as suggested. It is completely fine that we have a placeholder for that here. --MASEM (t) 16:03, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

I agree. Sourcing is solid, and having a placeholder is meaningful because it provides information that S5 is indeed being produced.-- / Kàmina / 08:10, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

I realize that there are sources. But the article is supposed to be a list of episodes. Information about future seasons is out of its scope, unless anything is known about any episodes of those seasons. Such information can be (and is) included in the main article, but I feel it's out of place here. User332572385 (talk) 09:47, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Not really. A reader who might have heard that there is S5 of MLP but may not know that there's no episodes known yet would come to this page and be confused about the lack of any mention of S5. By saying - at minimum - it's confirmed but still in production, the reader learns that quickly in one of the places to look for that information. --MASEM (t) 15:05, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2014

I need to edit something, please. MovieLover9000 (talk) 19:27, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

• Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 19:32, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Twilight's Kingdom

I know I announced that the episode "Twilight's Kingdom" are both episodes 25th and 26th, it was airing the following schedule is May 10th, 2014. I don't about this episode until they aired it in short promos on YouTube in around next month. --Allen Nguyen ^Talk 23:12, 26 May 2014 (UTC) 14:14, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Finale Season

It has begun that Season 4 finale aired since May 10th, 2014. Just a reminder that Japanese + Korean dubs are still there. --Allen Nguyen ^Talk 23:12, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2014

QueenReefah (talk) 15:27, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:35, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Season 5 Confirmed

What I remember after the 5th season of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic with a full set of 26 episodes then the 6th one premieres from the Hub Network next year by the president of Hasbro Studios. What I or they did is update the table of this article. --Allen ^Talk 05:55, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Occuring 5th season

The 5th season announced that it was another set of 26 episodes which it will occur in early next year of 2015. Hmm... does that even they've announced it for the next season by Hasbro Studios? --Allen ^talk 06:53, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2014

Full text paste, not just request. Removed by answering user Kirbychugirl98 (talk) 01:47, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Hans404 (talk) 02:04, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Region 4 DVD releases

May I ask why there's a column for Region 4 DVD releases? There are no release dates listed, and I can't seem to find any reference to any Region 4 releases elsewhere in the article or in List of My Little Pony DVD releases. Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 04:02, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

By the way, the German edition of the season 1 DVD, which includes the English original, was released for regional code 0. Maybe that should be included. Gial Ackbar (talk) 08:00, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Could the title to "Green Isn't Your Colour" be a reference to Pink Floyd?

I'm something of a Pink Floyd fan, and upon looking at the tracklisting for the 1969 album "More", I noticed that the track "Green Is the Colour" sounds rather similiar to the title for the episode "Green Isn't Your Colour". There's probably a low amount of probability that this was a reference, and maybe not worth mentioning, but tell me what you think and if it shoulded be added to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.219.160.114 (talk) 01:41, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

It could be, but it's unlikely; green has been traditionally used to symbolize jealousy, and it's likely Pink Floyd themselves were referencing that tradition, as were the writers of the episode. 2601:1:C100:2D80:F9A2:FAC0:F042:1E90 (talk) 00:23, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Date-format edit (644258341)

Special:Diff/644258341 by Zziccardi

I've reverted this according to the style guideline on the consistency of dates. Before my edit that converted to yyyy-mm-dd, most of the dates in the references were already in that format. I also converted all the references in the season pages to the same format (because the episode lists and corresponding references) are transcluded here. (Most of them already used yyyy-mm-dd as well.) Anon126 (notify me of responses! / talk / contribs) 06:06, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Anon126, and thanks for pointing this out. I intended to add the {{use mdy dates}} template where appropriate in accordance with the "strong national ties" guideline, but hadn't noticed the citations had already been normalized in a different format than the body of the article. Sorry about that. —zziccardi (talk) 15:11, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Splitting S5 in the overview?

In the series overview box, season 5 has been split in two to show the run of the series' first and second halves. But is this really necessary given the other unlisted breaks the series has had before? I think it's best to keep the overview concise and just show when the season as a whole starts and ends. User:Immblueversion (talk) 04:00, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

It’s one season and therefor should not be split. Exact air dates can be but at the episodes once they are known. Gial Ackbar (talk) 08:31, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

So basically what you are saying is that we can finally split it in half after we find out the exact "later in 2015" date of when the second half of "Friendship is Magic: Season 5" will be airing on Discovery Family? -Prince Silversaddle (talk) 10:06, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

No, I meant we can put the air dates in the episode list below, as it is always done. Gial Ackbar (talk) 10:43, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

— The S5 list of episodes has duplicated information from the main article about Season 5. Argamis (talk) 03:21, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Colors of seasons

@InternetSpartan: I changed the colors of the seasons per WP:COLOR and consensus at Template_talk:Infobox_television_season#Colour. I'm happy to discuss alternative colors, so long as they satisfy WP:COLOR's AAA criterion of a contrast ratio of 7:1. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 15:45, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

I compared the two sets of colors, and they're so similar, they're practically the same. Is it really that drastically different for colorblind people? Dogman15 (talk) 03:06, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Production order

One thing that's had me thinking is the verifiability of the episodes' production order noted in the lists (e.g., "Hearth's Warming Eve", "Family Appreciation Day" and "Baby Cakes" in season 2). And if it is verifiable, how do we know for sure what the production order is anyway? User:Immblueversion (talk) 23:34, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

This is a fair question, and beyond using information we glean from tweets and anon 4chan posts, there's no ready way to confirm it unless we see the animatics and their time codes. The credits don't list a number. I don't see any numbering at Google Play or iTunes to indicate a difference from broadcast order (though we know it exists). --MASEM (t) 23:52, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Season 6 article

As the name and plot for the first 2 episodes of seaon 6 are now known (see [1] and [2]), should the article for that season be created? Gial Ackbar (talk) 10:04, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

I would wait until confirmation from Hasbro or Disc Fam of the airing dates. The synopsis may be right, but we're still conflicted between the May start from the Toy Fair and this, and Zap2it is not 100% reliable for yet-released stuff. --MASEM (t) 10:17, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Now its fair game for an S6 article, since promos today confirming March 26. --MASEM (t) 15:54, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Done. - Jasonbres (talk) 16:59, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

The Cutie Re-Mark episode article?

I see an article for The Cutie Re-Mark has been created, but it doesn't seem to have that much outside coverage apart from a few articles and a single review, making it very scarce for anything other than a plot summary. I'm sure there's a reason we haven't made an article for every other episode that have no more coverage than the season 5 finale, so I question the need for this article and what we should do about it. I propose further discussion on the episode's talk page. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 13:40, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Session 7 page

I was wondering how to start a new page like the previous season. Also if it's alight would like to make the heading background color yellow (#ffff00) and font black (#000000). To give tribute Sunset shimmer seems to have a one of the elements in the show as of legions of everfree Even though it unofficial seventh one. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattschneck88 (talk • contribs) 03:08, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

There's no reason to have the page now, with the only bit is official confirmation that it is coming. Until we have a firm broadcast starting date, we should hold off. --MASEM (t) 03:26, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Should the movie be included here, yet?

Given that it is not yet confirmed in any way if this runs in the show's canon outside of using the same characters, I'm a bit worried about adding the movie at this point. It might be tied to the series' canon, at which point it would be fine but there's no confirmation either way which way this will go. --MASEM (t) 12:41, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

This has nothing to to with in-universe canon. However, the movie is not a part of the series, like a season or episode, and therefor does not beloge in the Episode list, same as the EQG-movies. But it might be mentioned somewhere in the text that they exist. Gial Ackbar (talk) 16:04, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

The movie is not a part of the series who said that? Just check how it looks like on other shows article pages. For example Stargate SG-1: List of Stargate SG-1 episodes#Movies --Crusier (talk) 17:47, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

We don't know at this point if the movie will continue from the continuity of the series or will be a reversion using the same characters, same settings, or the like. Not every "tv-turned-in-movie" is necessarily part of the series, and we won't know until much closer to release. --MASEM (t) 04:17, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Airdate for Season 7

Found these links - http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic/EP013304160161, http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic/EP013304160162 - Could this be added when the episode titles are announced? ChipmunkRaccoon (talk) 23:23, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Airdates for Season 7 Episodes 9 to 12 (Discovery Family)

MLP:FIM (S7E9 June 3) ; (S7E10 June 10) ; (S7E11 June 17) ; (S7E12 June 24)

Because of the early releases of episodes 4-6 on Canada, other pages like Zap2it are incorrectly "predicting" future airdates. To fix this Chevistian Garcia Cordova released in his twitter the current official planned airdates on Discovery Family. Argamis (talk) 06:02, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2017

Done

Add that season 7 episode 6 is written by Michael P. Fox and Wil Fox 65.78.171.28 (talk) 21:42, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

–-

IMDB is listing both "Michael P. Fox" and "Wil Fox" as writters for the FiM episode #149 "Forever Filly" [S7E06] 11:00, 7 May 2017 (UTC)Argamis (talk)

Unofficial season 8 confirmation

John de Lancie, the voice of Discord, wrote in his twitter that "he was just asked to record two episodes for season 8". I think this information should be added to the article as a probable confirmation of season 8. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2168:1100:500:9829:74F9:9481:F8DD (talk) 13:09, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Leaks Aren't Allowed on Wikipedia???? Bonbondash1234 (talk) 00:42, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

To Where and Back Again Page

I remember once that there was a page for this episode, just like there is for ones such as Pinkie Pride and Twilight's Kingdom.

There was tons of info involving the episode as well.

I was wondering whether or not we could bring that back? I really liked that page.Austin012599 (talk) 20:47, 10 September 2017 (UTC) Austin012599 (talk) 20:47, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

The old version can be found here. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/To Where and Back Again for why this page was redirected here. Unless you can adress those issuses, the article should not be recreated. Gial Ackbar (talk) 16:30, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Individual Season 7 Episode Pages?

Is there a chance we can give one or two of the season 7 Episodes their own page?

I often thought that the perfect episodes were Fame and Misfortune, and The Perfect Pear. It’s nothing personal, but I think each of them have some really significant things about them that give them potential to have their own pages. Austin012599 (talk) 03:02, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Are there reliable third party sources that proof their WP:Notability? If yes, then episode article can be created. But they should not be created on personal preference. Gial Ackbar (talk) 18:05, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

I thought for sure The Perfect Pear would be such a big deal with its guest stars and important story that other sites would write about it enough to warrant an article. It's a shame I was wrong. Dogman15 (talk) 22:23, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi

I may have found a couple of references on info & episodes for Season 8.

Take a look:

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1323906-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic

http://www.youloveit.com/cartoons/258-my-little-pony-season-8-titles-and-synopsis-of-the-series.html Austin012599 (talk) 22:27, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

The fist link is certainly not reliable. Not sure about the second. Gial Ackbar (talk) 17:33, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Zap2It

Would Zap2It be classified as a reliable source for this year’s season? If so, then I think I found something for here.

https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/overview.html?programSeriesId=SH01330416&tmsId=EP013304160129&aid=gapzap Austin012599 (talk) 04:29, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2018

180 11 "Molt Down"[88] Denny Lu and Mike Myhre TBA May 26, 2018 181 12 "Marks for Effort"[90] Denny Lu and Mike Myhre TBA June 2, 2018 182 13 "The Mean 6"[90] Denny Lu and Mike Myhre TBA June 9, 2018

in this part of the article, there are three places that say "TBA". If I can, I would like to have those three changed. Can you please change the TBA under the first "Denny Lu and Mike Myhre" to "Josh Haber", change the "TBA" under the second "Denny Lu and Mike Myhre" to "Nicole Debuc", and the "TBA" under the third "Denny Lu and Mike Myhre to "Micheal Vogel". Thank you so so much and let me know If I need to be more specific! Thank you again! :)

https://www.equestriadaily.com/2018/05/writers-for-next-four-episodes-also.html

Faithdash (talk) 18:28, 17 May 2018 (UTC) Faithdash (talk) 18:28, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:02, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

episode #s within seasons on this list...

Episode numbers within each season would be helpful — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicholascullen (talk • contribs) 14:13, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Question

Are there any individual episodes from Seasons 7 & 8 that are worthy enough to have their own pages? For that matter, do we have enough to really make some pages for certain episodes of those seasons? Austin012599 (talk) 15:59, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

No, I don't think so. - Jasonbres (talk) 19:35, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

On my little pony the best gift ever it was not 1 hour is was 44 minutes Dylanpizza358 (talk) 03:25, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2019

Current:

197 1 "The Beginning of the End" (Part 1)" [109] TBA TBA April 6, 2019

198 2 "The Beginning of the End" (Part 2)" [109] TBA TBA April 6, 2019

Changes proposed: The first "TBA" for both episodes corresponds to the director/s (this should remain unchanged). The second "TBA" for both episodes corresponds to the writters. Change both of them for:

"Joanna Lewis and Kristine Songco"
 

The attribution can be seen in this image: MLP FIM S9E01

The source "plays" when opening this link to the official Discovery Family instagram account: https://www.instagram.com/stories/discfamily/?hl=en

. Argamis (talk) 14:13, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Should the pilot episode be added to this page?

The unaired MLP pilot from 2009 (My Little Pony Adventures) was leaked last year. Should it be included as apart of the list? Sandwichey Boy (talk) 19:57, 17 October 2020 (UTC)