I wonder why aren't these links from Edenbridge's Official (!) site and forum considered as "reliable". They are written sometimes even by Lanvall HIMSELF! I think one can believe the facts about a person that were said by him-/herself. Quietus-EN (talk) 12:11, 10 July 2009 (UTC) Quietus-EN
- How do you figure that, exactly? You're saying no one has ever lied or misrepresented facts about himself? --LP talk 17:17, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- O.K. now I've understood. But honestly, I don't know what's the point of lying about, for exampke, what instruments you're playing, or what's your day of birth, or what's your band's hometown. Or what are your hobbies. Discography of an artist's available everywhere. One can use Google to verify it. Should I add "google" as links? What source will be considered to be "true"? I see however that with the lack of facts that Lanvall and his band give us, this article would better not exist, because it's UNverifiable. I think all of information that we have about him is everywhere written from his or Sabine's words. (Except about his participation in F-1 translation, there are proof-pics. And except his discography - there probably are some "indepentent" persons who can "verify" that these albums aren't a mirage and sound illusion and are really released. ( ROFL ) ) So... i basically want to say I dunno how to improve this article. I think there's the same thing as with Castaneda for example. No one can "verify", except some obvious facts (like F-1 or discography). And for his hobbies, am I supposed to post here photos where Lanvall's watching "STAR TREK" or what? I'm confused. =\ Quietus-EN (talk) 19:12, 10 July 2009 (UTC) Quietus-EN
- One of Wikipedia's core content policies is WP:Verifiability, which says, in a nutshell, that articles should be based on reliable, third-party sources. Sources that are affiliated with the subject of the article don't meet this criteria. The tag at the top of the article serves the purpose of letting all editors who come across the page know that the article needs third-party sources, and that they should add some if they can. --LP talk 23:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- That could somewhat calm me down, I think... Understand, I think it's a wonderful musician, and would be not happy at all if this article was deleted. I think he's not less cool musician that, let's say, Tuomas Holopainen of Nightwish. Their last album took very good reviews from all metal magazines, and the band Edenbridge was headliner of several tours. I think if I would find the sources where that is said, it would be sufficient to show the encyclopedic value of this article? and if not about Edenbridge but about solo-project, it took great reviews too... If this article wouldn't be deleted it calms me down finally. Then I'm sure that someone (or me myself) finally finds and adds some third-party sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.140.155.75 (talk) 14:40, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
- One of Wikipedia's core content policies is WP:Verifiability, which says, in a nutshell, that articles should be based on reliable, third-party sources. Sources that are affiliated with the subject of the article don't meet this criteria. The tag at the top of the article serves the purpose of letting all editors who come across the page know that the article needs third-party sources, and that they should add some if they can. --LP talk 23:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
- O.K. now I've understood. But honestly, I don't know what's the point of lying about, for exampke, what instruments you're playing, or what's your day of birth, or what's your band's hometown. Or what are your hobbies. Discography of an artist's available everywhere. One can use Google to verify it. Should I add "google" as links? What source will be considered to be "true"? I see however that with the lack of facts that Lanvall and his band give us, this article would better not exist, because it's UNverifiable. I think all of information that we have about him is everywhere written from his or Sabine's words. (Except about his participation in F-1 translation, there are proof-pics. And except his discography - there probably are some "indepentent" persons who can "verify" that these albums aren't a mirage and sound illusion and are really released. ( ROFL ) ) So... i basically want to say I dunno how to improve this article. I think there's the same thing as with Castaneda for example. No one can "verify", except some obvious facts (like F-1 or discography). And for his hobbies, am I supposed to post here photos where Lanvall's watching "STAR TREK" or what? I'm confused. =\ Quietus-EN (talk) 19:12, 10 July 2009 (UTC) Quietus-EN