Talk:Koleda

Latest comment: 13 years ago by 188.196.53.62 in topic Comparison to Yule

I know for a fact that the information on this page is erroneous. KOLEDA is not from Latin but in fact from the very Slavic word used for 'murder/sacrifice' which in macedonian is Kolenje, I think they say (Da zakoliš edno prase - to sacrifice a pig), because Koleda relates not so much to the birth of Chirst but to the murdering of the babies ordered by King Herod on hearing that a new king was born.

I know the Latin word does sound similair but this is how I know the situation. Celtmist 06-01-06

Latin word "Calendar" was derived from Slavic "pagan" Kolia-dar. The year, cycle of god Kolya. Dar is a gift (Rasenian - Etruscan Tur, Dur) "Kolenje" as you refer is equal to Klanje, which has nothing to do with Kole-dar - totally different words and meanings in Slavic language... Wikipedia - is example how Slavic history was re-written by people who have no clue about Slavonic language, but instead write and interpret Slavic history and even Gods! What a arogancy! (they do this already over 1000 years since Teutonic order and Byzantine empire...


kolyadovanie can't really be applied to the Ukrainian Shchedrivka since it's a Russian word... and Kolyadnyky and Shchedrivky (Christmas Carols and New Year's Carols) and the carolling related to each is still regarded separately, and not together.

In Czech, Slovak?

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In Czech noun koleda/koledy is name for special song/songs. Verb koledovat is name of action od singing these songs (koledy). See cs:Koleda (Czech). --mj41 (talk) 13:24, 15 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Comparison to Yule

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In the text it is stated that "Koleda" may be derived from a word for "wheel", just like the Anglo-Saxon word "Yule" is. Connecting "Yule" to "wheel" is nothing but a common folk-etymology, since the words are similar - but NOT related - in some Germanic languages (for instance, compare the Swedish "jul" (Yule) with the Swedish "hjul" (wheel), where the h is silent). "Koleda" may very well be derived from a Slavic word for wheel, but I'll remove the mentioning of Yule. - Eje —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.112.67.196 (talk) 00:24, 15 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Swedish "Hjul" resemblance with Slavic & old Sanskrit is word "Vala" or Slovene "Volan" (Steering Wheel - like in car) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.196.53.62 (talk) 15:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC)Reply