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Why does a non-page have protected status? Especially given that it is a part of the 'basic forms of government' list, it really seems like there should be an article here. 'Kakistocracy is a theoretical form of government formed by 'the least qualified people'. Most commonly, the term is used by individuals to criticize a government and its' leaders that they oppose.' would be at least a start. 87.113.242.29 (talk) 00:00, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

This article was protected by User:Pascal.Tesson, who has not edited Wikipedia since 2010. Perhaps this page should be listed at WP:Requests for unprotection. Jarble (talk) 04:18, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
See Kakistocracy. I added useful content and significantly expanded article --CasetteTapeMaster (talk) 01:40, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Protected edit request January 2016Edit

Please add

{{pp-protected|small=yes}}

to the top of the page. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:34, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

  Done BethNaught (talk) 08:56, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Article Recreated SuccessfullyEdit

I just successfully recreated this article at Kakistocracy and has some useful-worthy content --CasetteTapeMaster (talk) 01:32, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

I question whether the last paragraph, about November 2016, is maintaining a NPOV. While I share the POV, that doesn't mean it belongs in Wikipedia without something to balance it. Dgndenver (talk) 20:03, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Please actually read the NPOV policy. There is nothing in violation of it in that paragraph. That the upcoming Trump administration is being widely described as a kakistocracy is a fact and a highly relevant one for this page, which is about the word and its use. And note that references to the Obama administration as a kakistocracy also appear on the page, and no one complained about violation of NPOV when the use of the word in that case was reported here. -- 68.111.35.169 (talk) 06:44, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

spelling correctionEdit

In the second paragraph in the Usage section, David Cay Johnston's name is incorrectly spelled "David Clay Johnston" -- Mr. Johnston has a Wikipedia entry under the correct spelling.[1]Jimcgreevy (talk) 20:11, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

"An example of a modern day Kakistocracy is the Trump administration which began in January of 2017."Edit

That's extremely subjective. Wikipedia isn't the place to vent your precious feelings.

With that in mind, I removed that sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:400:4202:1B40:F58B:E194:9797:CDFB (talk) 00:32, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

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Is the Usage section neutral?Edit

As of when I made this posting (March 2018), the Usage section of the article appeared to be a place where people express opinions about the current POTUS rather than discussing the term "kakistocracy".

The section has, in this order:

  • a half-sentence about the majority of the 20th century,
  • a half-sentence without specifics about the Reagan administration,
  • a sentence about the word's usage globally,
  • a sentence about Glenn Beck's use of the word to describe the Obama administration, and
  • six paragraphs going into detail about the use of the word to describe the Trump administration.

This appears to me to be biased. If it is biased, should we find examples of other kakistocracies, summarize the description of the Trump administration, or do both?

--Rob Kelk 15:45, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether it is biased, since the term was not used about other recent US Presidents. It is certainly however major overkill and should be pruned, irrespective of what may be added about others (inc. non US?). Pincrete (talk) 20:49, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

It's just another Trump-hating hit piece by butthurt leftists, not an encyclopedic article in any way.77Mike77 (talk) 22:07, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

@77Mike77, Robkelk, and Pincrete: The word "kakistocracy" has often been used by critics of the Trump administration. This is one reason for the word's recent popularity. Jarble (talk) 18:29, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
@Jarble:Yes, that was exactly my point - and exactly my complaint. The word is being used by critics of the current US administration. Where else in the world is it being used? Who else in the world is being described by it? Is this term sufficiently notable to deserve a Wikipedia article? --Rob Kelk 21:21, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
@Robkelk: Yes, this article's lead section explains the previous usage of this term by Thomas Love Peacock in 1829. This section of the article explains its previous usage throughout the late 20th century. Jarble (talk) 21:44, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
@Jarble: I would still like to see some non-USA uses of the word. Would you have any complaint if I was to summarize those six paragraphs down to one sentence? --Rob Kelk 21:48, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
@Robkelk: As far as I know, the word kakistocracy has mostly been used in the USA, and more rarely in other English-speaking countries. If the article's summary of the word's usage is accurate, then it is not necessary to remove it. Jarble (talk) 21:55, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
@Jarble: Not going to remove, just going to summarize as per WP:IMPARTIAL. --Rob Kelk 21:57, 6 May 2018 (UTC) EDIT: And WP:TRIVIA --Rob Kelk 22:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
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