Talk:Joni (song)/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: PSA (talk · contribs) 02:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: MaranoFan (talk · contribs) 16:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Auto-fail: This is a long way from meeting 3a. The article itself mentions that a different version of the song is going to appear on a deluxe edition of the album that has not been released. The infobox seems to have claimed this for a long time before being changed a few days ago? Currently, reading this article just creates confusion about whether the song will appear on one of the artist's future projects or not, which is disqualifying. I mean, the lead says it is an unreleased song but the infobox states a release date? The Music and lyrics section is full of awkward sentences since it is prematurely squeezed out of insufficient source material (“The lyrics are characterized by soulfulness, precision, brevity, and spontaneity.”, “conjures several descriptive scenes in quick succession, employing imagery of sex and money (‘If the money right, is the pussy good?’), the golden hour (‘The golden hour awaits for me’), the moon (‘Moon corrals us to the water’), and the end of summer.”) which leave a lot to be desired when it comes to describing what the song is actually about. The structure is poor with just not much to say right now. The categorization of the song as "trap" seems to come from a primary source so that should not be stated as a fact in the prose or be included in the infobox. The NME source describes the version released on SoundCloud as finger-picked, which seems to be the same one that has been described as folksy and samples Elliott Smith. There seems to be some WP:SYNTHESIS going on in the article to imply these are definitely two different versions, and nonetheless, "folksy" does not mean "folk" can be used as a main genre.

Charting information, personnel information, many critical perspectives, the parent album's name, and a release date for most platforms, which would be expectations for something to pass GA anyways, could be expected to surface in the future with its official inclusion on either of the two projects the article says it might be on. There is an unknown featured artist yet to be announced too? This would require not just the article to be changed significantly but also key parameters in the infobox. Songs by this artist no-doubt receive critical reviews and chart entries upon widescale release, two sections that are absent currently. This is in no way an appropriate GA candidate with that many unknown variables. 1a, especially 3a, 3b, 4, and 5 are too many criterion that cannot be met right now. Failing.--NØ 16:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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