Talk:Jørgensen's law/GA1

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Nominator: UndercoverClassicist (talk · contribs) 10:17, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Jens Lallensack (talk · contribs) 16:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

This looks very good; not sure if I can find issues but I will try. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 16:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Good to see you -- looking forward to working together. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 18:02, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

• unless possessed of special powers, – maybe write "unless they possess special powers"?
  • No major problem with this (though potentially ambiguous: is they the mortals or the gods?) -- but then I also must admit I don't really see the problem/improvement we're going for here? UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 19:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
• Now, as Keyser [de] has already noted – "Kayser"?
  • Oops - yes, good catch. Fixed. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 19:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
• During the false account Odysseus tells of his voyage to Ithaca to the swineherd Eumaeus in Odyssey 14 – This is a bit difficult to read. Maybe "During the false account that Odysseus tells the swineherd Eumaeus of his voyage to Ithaca in Odyssey 14"?
  • I'm not sure that's better: the slightly odd word order was intended to remove the ambiguity of whether the account was in Od. 14 (it is) or whether the voyage was (it wasn't). UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 19:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
• Jørgensen's law is not universally followed in Homeric poetry, though most apparent exceptions can be explained away or follow other conventions of Homeric narration – "away" sounds a bit colloquial to me, maybe just remove that word?
  • Not sure it is, at least in the sources I read, and there's a distinction of meaning: "explained" means "we know why the law is broken", "explained away" means "when we look deeper, we realise there's no break at all". UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 19:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Some nitpicks on the Biography (optional):

• consider using proper ISBN formatting with hyphens using an ISBN converter.
  • I've seen it argued either way, but looking around I'm (re-)persuaded on the value of the hyphens. Have tried out the format ISBN template: might not take effect immediately (I think it waits for a bot). UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 19:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
• Jørgensen, Ove (1904). "Das Auftreten der Goetter in den Buechern ι–μ der Odyssee" – I am pretty sure the spelling has to be "Götter" and "Büchern". The original is fully capitalized, where ü becomes UE and ö becomes OE. When writing the title without such capitalization, UE should become ü and OE should become ö.
  • Huh; I didn't know that (I thought e.g. ü and ue were simply alternate possibilities). Changed. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 19:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
• de Jong 2010, p. 260–261. – should be "pp."
  • Another good catch: thank you. Fixed. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 19:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

• Images are appropriate, sources are of high quality, and the article seems to be a comprehensive coverage of a quite narrow topic. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 19:06, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
  • I think that's the lot -- thank you for these. Mostly just done, but a few replies above. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 19:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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