Talk:Introit

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Sparafucil in topic Pronunciation

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Shoot... I tried to cite Apel and Hiley, but couldn't get the footnotes to work right. Can someone fix that?

Also, I'm not comfortable with the phrase 'Gregory is credited with "composing" many introits himself.' Gregory was popularly believed to have composed some (even all) of the Gregorian corpus, but my understanding is that Gregory is not known to have composed any music. If this line is asserting, as the scare quotes seem to suggest, that Gregory did not in fact compose introits but was merely popularly believed to have done so, it should say so more clearly. If it's asserting the contrary, it needs a citation. --Peirigill 05:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Okay, I fixed the footnotes, and moved the text around some to make the article easier to navigate. I'm sure you're right about the intention of whoever wrote about Gregory, so I changed that too. Aren't Ambrosian and Milanese chant the same thing? If so it doesn't need two links. Rigadoun 17:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, Rigadoun! Yep, Ambrosian and Milanese are the same. Since, so far as I can tell, there are no Wikipedia entries for the major non-Gregorian plainchant repertories (Old Roman, Ambrosian/Milesian, Mozarabic/Hispanic/Visigothic, and Beneventan), I figure I'll try my hand at creating pages for them. The problem is that there isn't scholarly consensus on what to call Ambrosian and Mozarabic, so I thought it made sense to list both names, make both clickable, and (eventually) make one of the names the title of a real page and the other name just redirect automatically to the "real" name. If it's better Wikipedia protocol within an article to use just one link, I'll defer to that. --Peirigill 20:09, 26 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
I think it's better to have just one, because otherwise it looks like there are two different styles (of course, you can list both, just don't have them both linked and go to the same place). I've seen Ambrosian and Mozarabic more than the other names, so I would use them for the main page names, though of course they are valid too. Ambrosian Rite and Mozarabic Rite also have existing pages, so it might be nice if they correspond. Also, is it really Milesian and not Milanese? Milesian usually refers to Miletus (in Greek Ionia), and the name given in the sources I've seen use Milanese. I made a template to link all the plainchant repertories. I don't know if you know much about the eastern chants (I don't), but it seemed appropriate to put them there too. Go ahead and add others if you know of them. Rigadoun 20:05, 28 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Other denominations edit

It would be great if someone could add info and history on the use of introits in non-Roman Catholic churches. Anglican, Lutheran, Orthodox, Methodist, etc. Dohn joe (talk) 19:29, 12 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Pronunciation edit

How is this word pronounced? I grew up in a church that had "introits" in the hymnal and the liturgy, but the word itself was never spoken out loud in introducing them. Does it rhyme with "hoyt" or with "blow it"? My study of latin makes me think the latter, but that was junior high, nearly 40 years ago, and I was NOT a good student, so that doesn't count for much. Thanks!!!! PurpleChez (talk) 18:59, 28 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

The answer to your 2nd question is yes. Sparafucil (talk) 01:09, 1 March 2019 (UTC)Reply