Talk:Instinctive drowning response/Archive 1

Archive 1

Possible list of evidence

Evidence I've seen in various sources includes far more than the "standard" signs:

• Body in upright position, often facing shore
• Head low in water
• Unable to keep the mouth consistently above water (sometimes "bobbing" low in the water")
• Hands out to the sides pushing downwards against the water
• Unable to talk, shout, or call out
• Lack of leg movement (ie, no leg "kicking" to support the head out of water)
• Absence of expected rescue-directed actions (for instance, failure to recognize or respond to attempts at reaching the victim)
• Inability to take other life-preserving steps (behaviors are automatic at this point).

May be worth sourcing and adding these? Noting for future. FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 11:29, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Update: - Frank Pia has responsed to an email and hopes to be able to reviw this article for technical accuracy, missing and useful information, and additional sources. FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 23:39, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

The video linked in the article is no longer available on Youtube.

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Water Safety Films Inc. and LSA Productions, Inc.." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.111.78 (talk) 16:16, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

There is a short clip of the removed video available on the official site.

http://www.pia-enterprises.com/retrieval.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.111.78 (talk) 16:03, 19 April 2011 (UTC)