Talk:Impulse Tracker/archive

Removed this from free software clones:

• ReViSiT. Runs under VST-Hosts (PC).

and is non-free: "THESE FILES ARE FOR USE BY THE PUBLIC. ANY MODIFICATION TO, OR RESELLING OF, ANY PART OF THESE FILES IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED WITHOUT EXPLICIT PERMISSION OF THE AUTHOR." Guaka 14:30, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

I added it back, as the section is no longer limited to free software. --Vossanova ^o< 20:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Mention of the Demoscene?

Impulse Tracker was very closely tied with the demoscene. I think that there should be some mention of its impact. Especially in the late 1990s, it was one of two very common formats. Most of the songs released into the demoscene were done either in this program or Fast tracker. I could either make a simple mention that it was closely tied (and impacted) the demoscene, or I could write a whole new section. Considering the spirit of Wikipedia, which do you think would be most appropriate? Or is nothing appropriate at all? -/Coplan 22:37, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, the demoscene should be mentioned here. The demoscene was the inspiration for and the target audience of Impulse Tracker. bneely 16:32, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

run this program on actual hardware/OS

Is possible to run this software (and i mean fast, to actually use it, not just to see if it works) on actual hardware and OS?

Maybe with dosbox or another emulator...?

"Yes, Impulse Tracker works in the latest version of DOSBox. However, some playback problems can be noted when GUS is activated and when lots of channels are in use. Personally, when I emulate Impulse Tracker, I've used a clockcycle rate of 12000 which works well when the use of channels is below approximatelly 24. Higher clockcycle rates will eventually cause more playback problems than it solves." -Red_Hat_Eagle

From Uglee - I'm no expert in discussions, but I found the perfect way to run IT on XP: http://www.fq-music.net/vdmsound.htm It should work on most computers running XP. If someone feels it suitable, please insert it in the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.70.61.197 (talk) 17:50, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I can't make it work since it asks for EMS, which I can't emulate with my mainboards. → Tristan ♡ (talk) 16:52, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Additional Player Software

I'm a big fan of Modplug Player, but don't see a link to it (the tracker is unwieldy to use for just playing modules). I don't find any sort of official homepage for the player though, to which to link.

Fair use rationale for Image:It214.png

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC) Bold text

Why no screenshot?

Shouldn't the article have a screenshot of this fine piece of software? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.174.80.132 (talk) 15:11, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Influence from Scream Tracker 3.x

While the influential legacy of Impulse Tracker is interesting, why is no mention made of the fact that Impulse Tracker was very closely modelled upon Scream Tracker 3 itself? The look and function is a deliberate emulation of Scream Tracker 3 (by Mr. Lim's own admission in the Impulse Tracker README), which in a way makes the "Influence" section inaccurate, as all of the listed trackers were thus influenced by Scream Tracker, and not Impulse Tracker. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.202.5.104 (talk) 12:12, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I have added a sentence about Scream Tracker 3. I have removed the "infulences" section (again), as it is unreferenced and seems to be an excuse to indiscriminately list every Tracker-type program. If you can find any information on Impulse or Scream from an independent, reliable, published source then please add this to the article, citing the source (WP:V). Marasmusine (talk) 12:51, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Software Box doesn't contain Impluse Tracker? What?

Uh, why is there an image of Schism Tracker if this is the Impulse Tracker page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.109.235.50 (talk) 01:42, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

The whole infobox seems to have been copied from the Schism page. I have correct this - thanks for spotting it. Marasmusine (talk) 08:53, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

"One of the first trackers for the DOS platform"

I know there is a reference, but I think this information is not correct. I think it one of the last trackers for the DOS platform. Before Impulse tracker there where trackers like Fasttracker 1 and 2, protracker, Modedit, Scream tracker 1 and 2, etc. etc. --87.251.56.132 (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

You are of course correct. I fixed it accordingly.

The text of the source reads:

Zwar ließ die Qualität zu Beginn noch zu wünschen übrig und Samples wurden in erster Linie für Soundeffekte und Sprachausgabe eingesetzt, doch wurden am PC bald die ersten Tracker-Programme wie Fast Tracker oder Impulse Tracker entwickelt, mit denen das vom Amiga bekannte Prinzip auch bei PC-Musik zum Einsatz kam, ohne den Klangkünstler aufgrund der zahlreicheren Ressourcen so einzuschränken wie auf dem Commodore-Rechner.

Rough Babel Fish translation:

The quality left to still be desired at the beginning and Samples primarily for sound effects and acoustic output was used, but at the PC soon the first tracker programs like Fast Tracker or Impulse Tracker developed, with which the principle well-known of the Amiga was used also with PC music, without the sound artist due to more numerous resources in such a way to limit as on the Commodore computer.

Perhaps there is some otherway to implement this citation? Or is it outright wrong? Marasmusine (talk) 11:07, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

That's a gross oversimplification. The first wave of trackers on the PC happened way before

IT and FT (even if we talk about their first incarnations). ModEdit, Dr. Track and the first

Screamtracker (remember: Impulse Tracker 1/2 is basically Screamtracker 4/5) appeared much later.

Also, 4players.de is just a really crappy source in general (Subjective, I know...).

That's fine, we use a WP:Reliable sources guideline, so if you are sure this is inaccurate then we can leave it out. However, the article still requires "significant coverage from reliable, third-party sources" or some other assertion of notability. Any ideas? Marasmusine (talk) 19:21, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

That will be difficult. Even the general article about trackers is pretty much free of citations.

The reason is that trackers were and still are somewhat unconventional pieces of software, largely

ignored by many "professionals" and their publications. I was looking for a timeline of trackers,

but it seems there is none out there. All the "tracker history" articles I could find on the web

are either very Amiga centric (they only cover Soundtracker, Noisetracker and Protracker) or they

are very brief and lack any details, just like the 4players thing. The best thing I could find

(also very brief) is his: http://tutorials.renoise.com/ita/?n=Renoise.ImpulseTracker

Whilst trackers are clearly important within the computer music community, it could simply be that a lot of these programs aren't suitable for inclusion in this general encyclopedia. We rely on reliable secondary sources to build up our articles (WP:Verifiability) and also have notability guidelines for inclusion (WP:Notability). I just have this feeling that something like Impulse Tracker might've had some coverage in a magazine like Future Publishing's "Future Music" or "Computer Music", which is why I'm holding off on an AfD. Marasmusine (talk) 11:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC