Talk:Harry Browne/Archive 1

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Why is "Free-Market" capitalized? Is it the name of an organization? If it's being used as a common noun, it should be written with lower-case letters. -- Mike Hardy

What about his scandals? Someone with info please report on that. He brought shame to the L.P.

scandals

Browne addresses allegations of wrongdoing on his website in his very lengthy report on the 2000 campaign. Many if not the vast majority of members of the LP respect Browne for his idealogy and integrity.

Capitalizing Free-Trade

It seems to be becoming a stylistic norm to capitalize Free Trade when referring to the libertarian conception of laissez-faire, in order to distinguish it from the neoconservative use of the term (as in "free trade agreements") which really refers to trade regulated in a mercantilist fashion. I know this will be disputed by some, but then most stylistic changes usually are.

Free Trade = laissez-faire

free trade (usually in scare-quotes) = neoconservative mercantilist doublespeak

Why is "free trade", "free market", or some other variant (capitalized or not) mentioned in the intro at all? It currently says he is a "free-market libertarian", but isn't that a bit redundant? As opposed to what, protectionist libertarian? --Delirium 18:24, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Let's be fair. The use of scare quotes around "free trade" is also a feature of socialist internationale-type doublespeak. There's enough doublespeak in the world for a variety of factions to employ it. ;-) --Christofurio 02:15, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I moved the term Free Trade from before "Libertarian" to before "investment" (or whatever word that was). Hopefully that'll make it clearer. --allixpeeke 29 March 2006

The September 11 attacks

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24444

Is this the Browne essay on those attacks referenced in the article? If so, shouldn't we link to it there? --Christofurio 01:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. Dick Clark 04:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

But what's the deal with this Larry Elder fellow? Judging by the article on him, He's hardly someone of great prominence. I question the inclusion of such a personality that seems to have very little to do with Browne directly.

Elder's a syndicated radio host and has written a number of books. He's actually rather prominent. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEME?) 15:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Elder is clearly notable, hence his inclusion in Wikipedia. If the claim about Elder's being influenced by Browne's article can be sourced (which it doesn't seem to be, at present), it should remain. Dick Clark 16:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Why are there so many of his articles hosted on worldnetcrazy?--Deglr6328 07:44, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

The man is dead, stick your Elder's comments someplace else

It wasn't really an "essay" necessarily. More accurately it was a column. Larry Elder seems of little importance to the story of Browne, but Browne does seem to have a certain level of importance in the story of Elder. More important for Browne would be his association with Michael Cloud (with whom he did a speaking tour in recent years), Perry Willis (this referring back to the so-called scandal), Jim Babka (who was a former Republican before being persuaded to Libertarianism by Browne's '96 campaign, who worked with Browne on his '00 campaign, whom he formed DownsizeDC.org with, and who had hosted Browne's radio show for him when his's [Browne's] health was declining), the main thinkers of the Austrian School whom influenced him economically, and of course his wife Pamela. Allixpeeke 05:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Blank

What's going on with the article --- it's showing up completely blank for me, but there's no record of a deletion and the history is still there. Agent0042 19:01, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Seems to be back, now... Agent0042 04:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Harry had warned that a day like [September 11, 2001] was coming and...

I'd originally put this in a single bracket for a reason.

The actual quote is:

"Harry had warned that a day like this was coming and he was actually surprised that some of those who’d listened to him and supported him were shocked" (emphasis added).

I put "September 11, 2001" in brackets because it was not written in Babka's original statement, but it was the day to which he was referring.

Someone placed this text into two sets of brackets, as so:

"Harry had warned that a day like September 11, 2001 was coming and he was actually surprised that some of those who’d listened to him and supported him were shocked."

This would be an inaccurate quote of Babka. So, I've removed the second set of brackets, and it now appears again as:

"Harry had warned that a day like [September 11, 2001] was coming and he was actually surprised that some of those who’d listened to him and supported him were shocked."

Hope everybody's cool with this.

Allixpeeke 71.246.94.73 02:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Once again, stop adding additional brackets. The exact quote is "a day like this," or something to that effect. I placed the bracket around "September 11, 2001" to make it clear that this was not part of the original quote, but was indeed what Mr. Babka was accurately referring to. Understand?

Let me give y'all another example. If you say, "I like green apples," and I say "I don't like that fruit," you understand what I'm referring to. But if you were to quote me to a friend as follows, "Alex said, 'I don't like that fruit,'" all your friends will ask, "What fruit?" That's why you will, instead, write to your friend, "Alex said, 'I don't like [green apples].'" This clarifies your meaning without altering the intented meaning of the person you are quoting.

If we don't leave the single brackets there, then we are incorrectly quoting Mr. Babka.

Allixpeeke 23:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Where Browne lived

The article states where he lived at birth and at the time of his death. Is there any information that indicates where he lived at other periods of his life? CopaceticThought (talk) 19:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)