Talk:Gorgani dialect

Contradiction Tag

Tag removed after removing the word "eastern". If you still feel there is a contradiction, please feel free to discuss it here. Thank you. Kjnelan (talk) 21:42, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

• Um, yeah. First paragraph: "Language developed and spoken there... is a dialect of Mazandarani...". Second paragraph: "Gorgani is considered an extinct dialect...". DOES it exist or not? DO people still speak Gorgani, or not? THAT's the contradiction, not whether it's an "eastern" or "western" dialect. DeMatt (talk) 05:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't see that.

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Har. The ARTICLE may no longer itself be contradictory; the SOURCES are. Source A (the Ethnologue entry) suggests it's a living dialect; Source B (the Iranian Studies report) says it's extinct. Else I'd've fixed it instead of plonking down the contradict tag, way back when. Do you have information, one way or the other? DeMatt (talk) 08:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

While it is true I love languages and even speak several fluently, I do not speak or know much about Gorgani, though I know of it from other middle-eastern languages. I fail to see the problem here as many languages are considered extinct thought they are still spoken in extremely small circles. Latin for instance, is an extinct language though it is still taught in schools and some people enjoy it's use, and it's mainly used in the scientific fields and religious circles. As a societal language though, it is very dead.

Having said all that, I'll take a stab at re-writing the article including new sources. Perhaps one of my dear friends at the college will have some insights since she is the head of the language department there. It may take me a few days so please be patient.

Please also see the sofixit tag above. Be Bold; take the initiative, have fun with the article. Kjnelan (talk) 15:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

• This is where I'll do much of my testing over the next few days: User:Kjnelan/Sandbox. If you want to make suggestions, or additions, go ahead and put them in the testing area, but please use inline comments to explain your reasons. You'll see a couple examples of inline comments already in the testing area. Thanks. Kjnelan (talk) 17:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Clean Up

This article was pretty much complete with what is currently available for research. Some of parts could not be verified and were removed.

One section may seem as if it is a contradiction, but current listings still have Gorgani as a dialect, though they never actually say it's in current use. One source even puts extinct in parenthesis (in the citations).

From physical research done at Pima Community College Language Department, no further information other than what is in this article can be found regarding the Dialect. Perhaps an expert in Farsi or Mazandarani would be able to expand it further. Any additional help would be greatly appreciated, but I've done as much as I can. Kjnelan (talk) 16:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)