Talk:Glossary of rugby league terms

Latest comment: 4 years ago by JerzyA in topic Apologia pro sua editorio

What should we do about terms that are no longer used in rugby league? edit

I think nearly every term in the list now is one that applies currently to the sport. What does anyone think about terms that were rugby league ones in the past but are no longer used now because of changes in the sport over the years? Should they be in this article or not?

I'm not sure how many there might be but examples of terms used in rugby league articles would include:

  • Line-out - abolished in 1897.
  • Punt-out - replaced the line-out from 1897 until 1902 when it was replaced itself by a scrum.

These are rugby league terms, even line-outs. Glossary of American football#H lists "halo violation" - a rule that existed from 1983 until the end of the 2002 season.

One option is to do nothing: it's not really a concern if a clear definition is given - including dates, if applicable - because the definition will let a reader know the term no longer applies or has no use.

Another option is to create a separate article (List of historical rugby league terms perhaps): WP:GLOSSARIES says to have a stand-alone glossary there should be 25 terms. Even if we had 25 historical terms, I'm not sure there should be a separate article for them. A major disadvantage would be having rugby league terms in two places, especially as someone who didn't know about rugby league in the first place and was reading through the terms to gain an understanding might find navigation a hassle or would perhaps miss or not understand the significance of the second article.

The last thought is that perhaps terms and definitions that don't apply to present-day rugby league be coloured grey to distinguish them. This could be a hassle with competition rule variations between NRL, Super League and the international rules.

As I've written above, American football just bung all theirs in together and I think we could probably do the same. As I'm going to add a couple though, I thought I'd see if anyone had any thoughts. LunarLander // talk // 20:23, 9 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

I agree with leaving the terms in this one article. I would suggest marking the obsolete terms as that, ie Punt-out (obsolete) and then go on with the definition where the dates of use can be entered. That way, anyone glancing down the list can see without necessarily reading the whole entry that the term is no longer used.  florrie  01:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
Good idea, thanks. LunarLander // talk // 12:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Consensus: Field goal, drop goal edit

Please see discussion here on usage of these terms. LunarLander // talk // 02:09, 24 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Zam-buk edit

The Sean Fagan article/blog is now not findable on the rl1908.wordpress which seems to be the new home of www.rl1908.com. As a reference, #45 doesn't seem to cut the mustard any more... 122.200.166.239 (talk) 05:20, 17 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sorted. LunarLander // talk // 12:47, 17 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Try edit

Isn't a try worth only four points, not five? Wschart (talk) 00:55, 8 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Apologia pro sua editorio edit

   Hear (or "look", old chap: I’m all in for respecting the original author’s national variety of ‘’en’’, but there’s a diff betw coherent, & (incoherently) syntactically ambiguous, UK en, so forgive & correct any howlers rather than blindly reverting me. Surely what was universally, ambiguously, garbled syntax -- or if not, bollixed rhetoric, so please copyedit with due attention.
--JerzyA (talk) 18:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)Reply