Talk:George Vincent (painter)/GA1
Latest comment: 5 years ago by Usernameunique in topic GA Review
GA Review
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Reviewer: Usernameunique (talk · contribs) 04:11, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
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Boyhood
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Boyhood
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Early adulthood (1812–21)
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Early adulthood (1812–21)
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Marriage and subsequent decline
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Marriage and subsequent decline
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Disappearance from public view (from 1831)
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Disappearance from public view (from 1831)
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Artistic career
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Influences, reputation and legacy
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Greenwich Hospital from the River (1827)
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Greenwich Hospital from the River (1827)
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Other paintings
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Overall
- Amitchell125, the article does a fairly good job of fleshing out Vincent's biography, but a less good job of describing his artistic importance. Some of the problems include:
- There should really be a "Background section; whatever the Norwich School of painters was is left entirely unexplained, and after reading the article I have a vague sense of Vincent as a minor painter from Norwich, but no idea where he fits in with English painting or a broader movement.
- - section done, needs more on GV in it (to follow). Hel-hama 23:48, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- - background expanded. Hel-hama 19:27, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- "Influences, reputation and legacy" should be rewritten. It jumps around all over the place, and as a result struggles to say much of anything. Further, if more recent sources discuss his work in any depth, they should be included.
- - done. Hel-hama 15:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- There's also some OR, but what's more troubling is the original interpretation: The description of Vincent's contribution to English landscape painting seems to go beyond what is in the sources, and interpretations are sometimes spun out of banal facts (e.g., "His paintings can can sell for high prices" is clearly what you personally think, since all the source says is what the price was). --Usernameunique (talk) 04:11, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- - line removed. Hel-hama 17:05, 22 November 2018 (UTC); a few unimportant facts removed. Hel-hama 17:19, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- - remaining issues here sorted. Hel-hama 20:26, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for your attention to this, Amitchell125, it looks much better. I've started to go back through the sections again, and you can see responses (through "Disappearance (from 1831)"; also one comment added to the section on Greenwich Hospital) above. I've also closed out a few of the sections where I don't have further comments. More to follow soon. --Usernameunique (talk) 05:46, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Amitchell125, further comments are above. There's nothing major; the most significant is the work that should be done on the third and fourth paragraphs of "Artistic career." The things I have remaining to do are to review the new "Background" section, the lead, and the references, and then do a final read through once all is resolved. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:45, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Amitchell125, sorry for the delay in getting back to this. Final comments are above. I'll still do a final read though once you respond to the above, but that won't be much. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:11, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Looks good, Amitchell125. Fixed a couple minor problems and am now passing. Well done with the article! Out of curiosity, what made you decide to focus on Vincent? --Usernameunique (talk) 19:40, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your help with the article, Usernameunique, you definitely helped me raise my game in the process. I found Vincent's life fascinating. I also admire his work and, living in Norfolk, I can view some of his best paintings, a few of which are on public display nearby. Hel-hama 20:06, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Looks good, Amitchell125. Fixed a couple minor problems and am now passing. Well done with the article! Out of curiosity, what made you decide to focus on Vincent? --Usernameunique (talk) 19:40, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Amitchell125, sorry for the delay in getting back to this. Final comments are above. I'll still do a final read though once you respond to the above, but that won't be much. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:11, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Amitchell125, further comments are above. There's nothing major; the most significant is the work that should be done on the third and fourth paragraphs of "Artistic career." The things I have remaining to do are to review the new "Background" section, the lead, and the references, and then do a final read through once all is resolved. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:45, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for your attention to this, Amitchell125, it looks much better. I've started to go back through the sections again, and you can see responses (through "Disappearance (from 1831)"; also one comment added to the section on Greenwich Hospital) above. I've also closed out a few of the sections where I don't have further comments. More to follow soon. --Usernameunique (talk) 05:46, 27 November 2018 (UTC)