Talk:Fouad Mourtada affair

Neutrality

this article is not neutral!!! -- [User:196.217.71.180] -- 2/18/08

I would like that the anonymous person above tell us why the article is not neutral. Anyone is free to improve the article with all existing points of views and nobody has tried to add or change anything so far. As far as I know neither the Moroccan police nor the prosecutor have made any statement in the case so far so it is impossible at this point to reliably state was they might think. So unless there is a real conflict of point of view I propose to remove the npov tag within a month -- User:uiteoi -- 2/20/08.

I added today to references to Maghreb Arab Press which seems to be the official news channel for the Moroccan authorities. I will continue to add references to other news channels to make this article as npov as possible -- User:uiteoi -- 2/21/08.

NPOV removed by 72.88.219.50 on 24 February 2008. Uiteoi (talk) 17:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Notability

This article may have a problem with the 'single event' rule. -- User:uiteoi -- 2/20/08.

I believe nonetheless that this article is of paramount importance because this is the first time world-wide that the creation of a facebook profile led to the imprisoning of an individual. This story will develop and we will need a place to document the upcoming events as this story unfolds and that would be inappropriate to cover in the facebook article. -- User:uiteoi -- 2/20/08.

There are now 14 international news channels references and 21 blog sites following this story. I believe this significantly increases the notability of Fouad Mourtada who is quickly becoming an icon for freedom of speech and human rights in Morocco -- User:uiteoi -- 2/21/08.

The character Fouad Mourtada does not warrant a biography. His "affair" does. Wiki guidelines are crystal clear on this; see WP:BIO1E. Anyone contesting that? Lixy (talk) 18:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree with some reserves. This is not just a criminal case, I believe that Fouad Mourtada is becoming an icon for at least freedom of speech and other human rights in Morocco . Uiteoi (talk) 17:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

It looks that way. But Fouad isn't opposing the regime nor anything of the sort. His case is used to point out to the abuses and miscarriages of justice everybody already knows about. His prank is the only notable thing about him. Heck, he even apologized in court and stated that he respects the prince very much. He ain't a martyr nor an icon, period! His name is just one among countless others. I do agree that the absurdity and surreal character of the case grants it a special status, but that's the same thing that would allow a "Fouad Mourtada Affair" on the Wiki in the first place. So please, don't drag the inevitable any longer. Rename the article. Lixy (talk) 20:19, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Cleaning

Cleaned-up to better meet wikipedia standards. Especially the story copied and pasted right from the "Help Free Fouad" web site. -- User:uiteoi -- 2/20/08.

References removal

On 25 February 2008, Lixy (talk) removed 11 news references. Even though a number of these references where relating the same event, these references were relevant for the notability of the case and its wide world-wide coverage. I believe that removing a large number of news references or selecting some references over others may be seen as a point of view. I therefore would like to add these references back unless of course someone objects. Uiteoi (talk) 17:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Smacking a hundred and one references in the intro comes out as a desperate attempt to give the guy notoriety. It's tacky at best. The practice would be tolerated on a very controversial article, but this one is clear cut. If somebody has issues regarding POV, let him/her take it here and we can discuss it. That said, feel free to add those references somewhere at the end of the article, just not the intro. Here's one more I ran across today: http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?lang=e&id=ENGMDE290052008 Lixy (talk) 20:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

"Embarked"

The timeline section tells us that Fouad Mourtada was, among other things, "embarked". Since this verb can only mean "to take/go on board a boat or plane" or "commence (a course of action)", it is completely meaningless here. I suspect it is a mistranslation from the French "embarquer", a somewhat colloquial word for being picked up/taken away by the police - but the English word is never used like this. Since the other verbs in the list are forms of punishment, "embarked" looks like one too - which makes its use even more bewildering. Of course, I can only guess at what the writer meant, but in any case he or she is clearly not a native speaker of English. I suggest that the whole article be checked by a native English editor.213.127.210.95 (talk) 11:59, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

I don't understand why my comment on "Embarked" has been automatically numbered 4.1 in the contents box - it is a separate comment, and should be numbered 5. But since the box doesn't appear on the editing page, I can't change it!213.127.210.95 (talk) 12:03, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

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