Talk:Fauna (deity)

Bona Dea and Marica

Fauna, sometimes called Bona Dea and Marica, was a goddess of fertility, healing, virginity and women. -- Perfecto  20:22, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Merger

The Bona Dea and Marica articles are both longer than this one. The Bona Dea one also shows up on a template of the gods. Should the merger go that way instead? Tedernst 22:31, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

I think that they are two different gods and they should have two different pages. Do you merge President Bush Jr with Bush Sr because they are father and son. No. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.73.83 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 1 December 2005

I disagree with this merger, the Fauna (goddess) page needs to stay there as a disambiguation page which I have now turned it into. I have also cleaned up the Marica page a bit as well. Fosnez 13:00, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Removing the templates. Ashibaka tock 16:12, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

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Well, I just looked up "marica" to find out if it really meant "gay" in south america. It does, so now that song makes way more sense... If you merged them, it would be really hard to find that out... just saying. I don't think it should be merged. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.74.109.49 (talk • contribs) 04:50, 14 March 2006

Change to redirect

Fauna was not mentioned at all but one of the dab page entries, making them unsuitable, so I changed it to a redirect to the final remaining one. --MegaSloth (talk) 11:04, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

The identity of Fauna is problematic. I'll try to provide some sources to sort this out well enough for the present, but the page shouldn't be merged to anything without reference to scholarship. Cynwolfe (talk) 22:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Entanglement with Bona Dea

This is a tricky business. I don't know if negative evidence counts - somehow I doubt it, but please bear with me. In developing the Bona Dea article, I'm using Brouwer (see that article's refs) as central resource. Among the 141 Bona Dea dedications he lists, none mention Fauna, or her "alternative" names and titles. She (and they) seem to be found only in literary sources, from Varro on. Brouwer claims his lists as exhaustive, per date of publication. Just saying, really. Haploidavey (talk) 17:23, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Macrobius seems pretty straightforward, and cites the libri pontificales. What I haven't found is an identification with Terra per se, but I didn't look very diligently. It sounds as if M's list of names are circumstantial invocations, dare I say indigitamenta? Cynwolfe (talk) 19:04, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Doh! Yes, it does. I've been as diligent as I'm able, and have come up with nothing more. At least, not at the pace I work, and I can barely get my head around B. Dea, let alone this material. We can still have a serviceable article here, but it might help to remove the "shortlisted" and linked items from the beginning of the article and embed a very small para for each. Or so I opine. Not that I'm volunteering. At least, not yet. Haploidavey (talk) 00:11, 7 February

2011 (UTC)

I dislike barging in other people's talk, however for the sake of the reader I must repeat for nth time that this entry is wrong: Macrobius states inequivocally that Bona Dea (as well as Ops, Fauna and Fatua), is/are an indigitation of Maia and not viceversa.Aldrasto11 (talk) 11:13, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Uh, Aldrasto, the article doesn't mention Maia at all. It just says that Macrobius says that Bona Dea, Ops, Fauna, and Fatua are names for the same goddess, according to the pontifical books (hanc eandem Bonam Faunamque et Opem et Fatuam pontificum libris indigitari). Perhaps it should say that "the same goddess" is Maia, but that isn't what the secondary source (Kaster) said. I'm not particularly interested in this article and encourage you to do whatever to it. I only did some triage because its contents had been deleted and changed into a mere redirect to Bona Dea. Cynwolfe (talk) 15:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup

I cleaned up the article, moving detailed citations of ancient sources to footnotes instead of jamming up the text, for instance. The article should not present undigested passages for the reader to assemble, but rather summarize them via secondary sources. I don't know what to do with this paragraph:

One may also compare the archaic god Fonio, the dedication "Fonibus" from Aquileia (CIL V 8250) and the inscription on one of the four cippi from the sanctuary of Bagnacavallo in Romagna, which reads Quies... Fone. <ref>Francesca Cenerini "Scritture di santuari extraurbani tra le Alpi e gli Appennini" in ''Mélanges de l' ecole Française de Rome (Antiquité)'' '''104''' 1 1992 p. 102.</ref> It looks these deities were associated with the idea of protection from perils and with healing practices, sometimes hydrotherapy. In the Iguvine Tablets VIa 30 fon(e)s means favourable, propitious. Francis Newman argues it is the Umbrian equivalent of Latin bonus.<ref>Francis Newman ''The Iguvine Tables'' London 1863 p. 35.</ref>

The argument seems to be that perhaps the god known as Fons or Fontus is related to Faunus? I can't tell. Seems a bit off-topic for Fauna. Cynwolfe (talk) 16:04, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Templates

This little article hardly needs two templates. Fauna is not a goddess with a lot of "mythology" as such; she's a rather ambiguous figure of ancient Roman religion, which the vertical template covers. Cynwolfe (talk) 11:42, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Fauna is a goddess said in differing ancient sources to be the wife, sister, or daughter of Faunus. Faunus is god of mithology, and template:roman religion is not only for mithology, template is abaut Roman mythology and religion.--Gaga.vaa (talk) 11:50, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

I think you're confusing religion and mythology. Fauna was a goddess who was part of ancient Roman religious beliefs and practices. Myths are narratives: can you point to stories in which Fauna is a character? To the best of my knowledge, she is just mentioned here and there in her religious functions, and has no "mythology" in the proper sense of "a body of narratives". Cynwolfe (talk) 11:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)