Talk:Fate/stay night/GA1

GA Reassessment

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I am listing this article for GAR as it does not meet the bulk of the GA criteria. The prose is not well-written and the article is in need of copyediting and clean up. The tables should be prose, and really the anime themes should be covered in the episode list, with the music section focusing more on soundtracks released rather than treating the music as separate from their media. Together, these fails criteria 1. Most of the article is unsourced, including most of the media and reception sections, and the character section. Most of the references are lacking basic details, such as publisher, and #8 is claiming a magazine reference while linking to an add for that issue instead of actually providing the magazine details and page numbers. This fails GA criteria 2. There is an excessive amount of plot information in the article, particularly the overly long character section when there is a separate list and individual character articles. The plot section is also overly detailed, and the stand out quotes violate the MoS. There is no production detail at all, and the reception section consists of only one actual source statement. Together, these fail criteria 3 (3b and 3a, respectively). The article also has an excessive amount of non-free images. Consensus is clear that individual character images in lists, either standalone or within an article, are inappropriate and considered to be decorative rather than being illustrations supported by critical discussion/analysis. Additionally, several of those character images have invalid or missing FURs. Also, the infobox image does little to identify the game, as its only a stylization of the title. An image of the cover would be more appropriate.

I have left some relevant tags on the article related to some of these issues, and I have left notifications with the relevant projects and primary contributers that the article is under a GAR. If there is no sign of the article being corrected so that it can meet these criteria again, it will be delisted as a GA on November 17, 2008. Additional time will be allowed if there is an active effort seen to correct the article. For good examples of GA level visual article novels, I strongly encourage viewing Air (visual novel) and Clannad (visual novel).

As a final note, this article's name seems to violate Wikipedia naming conventions with the use of a /. Please recheck the naming guidelines to be sure this article's name is appropriate.-- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 20:57, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Without speaking for any of the other issues, as I've never touched the article in my life, I can say that if the title of the article violates wikicoding guidelines we have a problem, as that's the correct title -- the slash definitely is in the title of the game, anime, and manga. How do we handle the coding for titles such as .hack//Sign? (Where's the guideline for the use of slashes in titles? I must be blind today, as I can't find it.) —Quasirandom (talk) 22:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Good question. The guidelines say "Do not use an article name that suggests a hierarchy of articles" which precludes the use of forward slashes, but it doesn't say what to do if that is actually part of the proper article name. Now, interestingly enough, the .hack's are listed at Wikipedia:Articles with slashes in title as articles that can't be "fixed" with renaming, so it may be that for now, nothing can be done. But certainly something to look at, as it messes up all the talk page breadcrumb links and stuff. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 22:58, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

The official title is always written "Fate/stay night" so it's really not fair if the .hack articles (and the ton of others in that 'articles with slashes' list) are kept that way, and this article is changed. As for the GAR, I'm not surprised in the least. FSN was one of the earliest VN GAs, back when it was still experimental, and no one's really updated it since then. In fact, after FSN got GA, it motivated me to make the Key VNs all GA. I personally believe if someone stood up, they could stave off the GAR (as I recently did with Strawberry Panic!), but I don't have the time nor the interest to keep FSN a GA at this time. If it loses its GA status, I believe I'll attempt to get it back to GA in the future, possibly with User:Cloud668, if someone doesn't do it first.--十八 01:04, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

As per the above notes, this article has been delisted as a GA article as the issues have not been addressed. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 05:59, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Are there any interests right now in working on this article to bring its quality back up? I believe the most fatal weakness in this article is lack of good sources of citations. Formatting could use some work, as well. Aqua3993 (talk) 00:47, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

I tried to do some formatting based on the kanon/clannad/air articles and add reference where I could but there are still parts at need some work. The internet radio shows Fate/Stay Tune and Unlimited Radio Works still needs to be added, as well as the several manga anthologies and art books out there. The music probably would do with a rewrite as well. I did what I could for the Setting and themes and Development but someone who knows japanese could write something better based off all the art books/character material/interviews. Radiotsixty (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Although I am able to read some Japanese, I do not have any art books/character material/interviews, so can't help much on that aspect. As for Fate/stay tune, the Japanese Wikipedia already has a page on it, but there are no citations. Also, somehow, I can't visit the radio drama website http://www.animate.tv/radio/details.php?id=furw The website only shows "data error" on my firefox. The "Reception" section that needs a lot of work. I am currently looking for good sources on that subtopic. Aqua3993 (talk) 16:22, 3 September 2010 (UTC)