Talk:Event Marketing Solutions/Archive 1

Promoting my business for free on Wikipedia

The reason I have created this page is due to their work with the UK National Health Service providing mobile clinics for Sexual Health and vaccination programmes. This is becoming more and more important as the NHS tries to maintain it's services whilst striving to be leaner and more efficient. Should There is a link to the work they do in this sector. Should I provide more examples of specific NHS Trusts they have worked with? RoyalBlueStuey (talk) 12:01, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

No. What's needed are citations to reliable sources which will show that EMS is Wikipedia-notable under the Wikipedia notability guidelines for companies and organizations. Note that Wikipedia-notability is different than dictionary-definition notability. Let me add a word of friendly advice: Though it may not look like it on first blush, there are strict policies on what subjects and content can and cannot be included in Wikipedia. In very general terms, before a person, place, thing, organization, or idea can be included in Wikipedia it must have

• already been recognized
• as important or significant
• by objective, independent, and provable third party sources
• with a established reputation for fact-checking
• which are independent of both the subject of the article and of Wikipedia itself.

That's just a plain-English generalization of the actual rules to give you an idea of what's going on here, so don't rely on it but refer to the actual policies instead. (For a great analogy illustrating these concepts, see WP:SCRABBLE.) Without a working knowledge of Wikipedia policy it can be very frustrating to try to write an article that won't be deleted. I've tried several times to write a better introduction to editing than can be found at the Article Wizard and Your First Article and I can't. Don't be tempted to skip past sections of either one, they're full of solid gold information. Also, if you've not done so already, you need to read the Notability, Verifiability, No original research, What Wikipedia is not, and Conflict of interest policies from beginning to end. Good luck with your editing, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 14:52, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks for taking the time to reply. I have begun adding references from government websites to help with the notability (NHS Networks news, NHS Care Records, Medical New website). How will I know if my editing has met the required standards. I find it tricky to work in this area sometimes because whilst I totally understand everything you say about notability I also see pages such as Delamere_Dairy & THQ_Digital_Warrington. RoyalBlueStuey (talk) 17:01, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

The problem with the sources you've given (at least the ones that were there before my last post, I've not looked at any you may have added since then), was that they were either the company's website itself or obvious repetitions of press releases, neither of which qualify as reliable sources (at least not of the kind needed to establish Wikipedia-notability). What other pages have or don't have is irrelevant for the reasons stated at WP:OTHERSTUFF. While there are places here where you can get help or supervision in editing, the only real test of whether or not it meets standards is whether it is changed or deleted by other editors. Regards, TRANSPORTERMAN (TALK) 18:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so from what I read the sources (Ie the ones on NHS websites) are key to it. I will persevere. Again, thanks for your time. RoyalBlueStuey (talk) 09:24, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Promotional wording

I notice the warning banner about this on the article. I presume this was due to words like "Wide" and "Large" have now removed tham. What else would your recommend in order to remove that particular banner.RoyalBlueStuey (talk) 17:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC)