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Reviewer: Amitchell125 (talk · contribs) 13:51, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Reply


Happy to review the article.

Review edit

It's worth checking if the Russian Wikipedia article has any further information, wikilinks, or sources that could be used in this article.

Lead section / infobox edit

1.1 Background and creation edit

1.2 After creation edit

  • Link exhibited (Exhibition).
  • Zinaida Ratkova-Rozhnova (1870–1966) – the dates should be removed as no other people in the article are given them.
  • Zinaida left Russia in 1918, she left behind a number of works of art - amend to something like ‘she left Russia in 1918, she left behind works of art’.
  • and some paintings - ‘and paintings’.
  • shown at several exhibitions - ‘shown on several occasions’. (to reduce the number of times ‘exhibitions’ occurs in the paragraph).
  • Hannover – it's ‘Hanover’ in English.
  • the anniversary exhibition – ‘the exhibition’.
  • The caption doesn’t require the picture’s dimensions.

2 Description edit

  • Link Impressionist (Impressionism); crepuscular (Crepuscular rays)
  • transforming the mundane into something unique in a magical twilight zone where darkness and light, reality and reflection, merge – this is an opinion, and I would name who said it – Mary Chamot? - (or the source it comes from) in the paragraph.
  • a flimsy wooden bridge – as we don’t know if the bridge was flimsy or not, amend to ‘ a flimsy-looking wooden bridge’.
  • To improve the prose of There are boats and a small pier bridge near the bank, as well as a boat carrying people floating down the river, amend to something like ‘There is a small pier bridge near the bank, as well as boats, including one carrying people down the river.’.
  • but they are more open – needs amending, as it sounds as if the monastery doors are not closed.
  • is vastly different – why vastly? (see MOS:FLOWERY).
  • Link palette (Color scheme) – the word colour is redundant here.
  • art historian Aleksei Fedorov-Davydov wrote is wrongly placed in the sentence.
  • Replace art historian Aleksei Fedorov-Davydov with ‘ Fedorov-Davydov’, as he has already been introduced.

3 Reception edit

  • Volga – ‘on the Volga River’? (if so amend and link the Volga).
  • art historian Aleksei Fedorov-Davydov - ‘Fedorov-Davydov’.
  • the symphony – was he a composer?
  • This is – his first landscape – I cannot check the quotation but the dash seems misplaced.
  • defined "abode" – being a term, abode should be in italics and without quotation marks.

4 References edit

  • Ref 1 (Смирнов) Translate the author’s name to Smirnov, Leonid. The other references in Russian should also be changed.
  • Ref 12 (Levitan 1956) is not mentioned in the Literature section.
  • Refs 29 and 30 (Druzhinin 1987) are not linked to the Literature section, as the source is shown as being written in 1986.

5 Literature edit

  • Translate the authors in Russian to Bruk, Yakov Vladimirovich; Lovleva, Lidiya Ivanovna
  • There are several instance where the Russian are not written in a romanized form, or translated, e.g.Художник РСФСР. See MOS:ROMANIZATION, all such instances need to be sorted.
  • The following sources have URLs that are of little use and should not be included: Брук, Яков Владимирович; Иовлева, Лидия Ивановна (2001); Druzhinin, Serafim (1986); Fedorov-Davydov, Aleksei (1966); Fedorov-Davydov, Aleksei (1975); Fiala, Vladimir (1974); Petrov, Vladimir (1992); Petrov, Vladimir (2000); Pospelov, Gleb (1997).
    • Why are they of little use? It's not quite so easy to find some of these sources online, so the URLs can help the reader get easy access. — Golden call me maybe?
      • OK but the Google Books websites don't provide easy access, as they are snippet view only. If you can't verify the text in the article using the Google Books website, the URL isn't much use. I'll see if these books can be accessed online in other ways, and add the URLs if I find any examples—please feel free to revert, of course. As this is the only point we are still discussing, the article can still pass with flying colours even if the Google Books links are not taken out. Amitchell125 (talk) 18:16, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
        • You are correct about the snippet view. I just assumed they'd be useful for verifying the article, but they're not much help for doing further reading. I don't mind removing them if they create some kind of MOS/ref issue. — Golden call me maybe? 18:25, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
          • Leave things as they are if you want, it's only a slight annoyance for anyone wanting to read the sources in more detail, but if you wanted to take the article further, a peer reviewer might well ask for them to go. AM
  • A url is available for Chamot at https://archive.org/details/russianpaintings0000cham/page/n1/mode/2up (registration required).
  • A url is available for King (https://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+wanderers%27+return.-a0376683184).

On hold edit

I'm putting the article on hold for a week until 14 June to allow time for the issues raised to be addressed. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 17:31, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Amitchell125: Thank you for such a thorough review! I've addressed all of your points above. — Golden call me maybe? 18:05, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Great job, please see my comment above. Amitchell125 (talk) 18:16, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Passing edit

All good for a GA pass, congratulations! Amitchell125 (talk) 18:48, 6 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

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