Talk:Europatriotism

Restoring Europatriotism

This page was originally created as "Europatriotism" but was renamed without consent to "Pan-European identity" The dramatic 2016 UK Brexit referendum has lead to a display of the more well-known anti-European views in the UK, but also, and especially among the younger demographic, in pro-European demonstration. We have also seen influential celebrities like ex-top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson express his feeling as European above British, saying he is a true and proud European. Rdeman (talk) 00:00, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

How about we use actual research to write the article instead of expressing political preferences by moving it around hap-hazardly?

I fail to see how anecdotes like "Jeremy Clarkson expressed his feeling as European above British, saying he is a true and proud European" has any relevance unless we can cite secondary literature which mentions this in the context of a presentation of a concept of "Europatriotism". --dab (𒁳) 13:49, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

I see you have copy-paste restored the page. Please don't do that. If you want to move the article back, submit a formal move request and see if you can get a consensus. --dab (𒁳) 13:50, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

While I understand the desire for academic rigor, dismissing relevant real-world examples and perspectives as mere "anecdotes" seems overly limiting. The concept of Europatriotism exists in both scholarly literature and the lived experiences of ordinary Europeans.

Jeremy Clarkson stating he feels more European than British is precisely the type of pop culture example that could help illustrate the notion of Europatriotism taking root at a grassroots level. While not rigorous social science, it offers a glimpse into current European identity.

Similarly, the protests around Brexit showcase emerging pro-European identities, especially among younger citizens. These events are shaping Europatriotism right now. Excluding contemporary, "on-the-ground" occurrences risks presenting an abstract, detached account.

My aim is not to make the article politically biased, but rather to incorporate a diverse mix of academic sources, polling data, current events, and cultural examples to provide a balanced, thorough perspective. Contemporary developments help demonstrate Europatriotism as a dynamic concept still evolving in the real world.

I believe high-quality Wikipedia articles should synthesize multiple types of sources. Rigorous research is crucial, but so are compelling illustrations of how these academic ideas manifest in the lives of everyday people. We should allow room for both. 141.149.48.42 (talk) 03:39, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

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