Talk:Euronat/Archive 1

Archive 1

Fascist?

I don't know if the parties indicated would consider themselves fascist. This seems a bit POV. ---CeltMDC 08:59, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)

They would probably use some kind of code word instead, but it's hardly POV to call them fascist. MSI calls themselves "post-fascist", the other perties use other versions. // Liftarn

Isn't it more common to give sources that state such things? --Orthografer 12:48, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

A large number of these parties were formerly or currently fascist.

Intangible seems to be very concerned with removing the sentence "A large number of these parties were formerly or currently fascist." claiming it's POV. In what way I ask. // Liftarn

Because it is just an opinion. Intangible 11:53, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

In what way is it an opinion and not a fact? // Liftarn

It's a fact, and referenceable. —Nightstallion (?) 14:37, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Source

There has to be included a proper source for the membership list, otherwise I will file for a AfD. Intangible 13:36, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I seem to have been a bit too fast, there. The link effectively doesn't provide the members of Euronat. A bit strange, though : the only page on Euronat in the Front National website, and halfway the page they start talking about a summer university their youth section organised.

It looks as if they want the reader to think that Euronat was successfull, and not having another way to prove it. --LucVerhelst 14:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

The Sweden Democrats have done the opposite and now claim that Euronat never existed. Anyway I found some sources.[1][2][3][4] ISBN 9197220477

Well it seems that Le Pen's idea was to bring together some of the European nationalist parties early in the 90's and in 1997, but he did not succeed. I am going to file for a AfD, since the organization was never really active at all. Intangible 23:36, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

It's a bit difficult to say if it was operational or not. Some say it was, some say it never existed (sometimes those are the same person). Euronat have become an "unperson", but there are sources saying it was active: "In March SD representatives participated in the FN and Euro-Nat congress in Strasbourg"[5], ""[6] I also have link when SD first say they are working within Euronat[7] and then that SD leaves Euronat in 1999[8]. So if it never existed it sounds difficult to both work within it and to leave it (how do you leave an organisation that doesn't exist?). // Liftarn

Well it exists [9]. Note though that this "Euronat" was founded less than a year ago. Intangible 15:50, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, according to [10], but then are Nationaldemokraterna really a reliable source? If so, it may be a restart or perhaps ND are just embaressed for ficking up SD's leftovers. // Liftarn

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