Talk:EUR-Lex

Over-capitalization

Why we're not using "EUR-Lex": Per MOS:CAPS and MOS:ABBR. "Eur" is a truncation abbreviation like "Calif[ornia]" and "Mex[ico]", not an acronym or initialism. "EUR" is just capitalization for emphasis, like "SONY TEN" for Sony Ten. The fact that the EU likes to do it is a WP:OFFICIALNAME thing; WP doesn't follow the EU's style manual. European writers tend to mimic this officialese style, but it's not consistent in reliable sources, and the use of the simple "Eur-Lex" is common:
"EU legislation stored in the Eur-Lex database" [1], "Eur-Lex: Access to European Union Law" [2], "Eur-Lex 2013" [3], "databases used for this purpose include Eur-Lex, ..." [4], "All Eur-lex material used in the work is © European Union" [5][6], "documents from the EU's Eur-Lex website" [7], "sections can be retrieved from the Eur-Lex website" [8][9], "administrative publications that can be found in the Eur-Lex (former CELEX) database" [10], "The documents were downloaded from the Eur-Lex website" [11], "data calculated from the Federal Law Gazette and Eur-Lex" [12], "See generally Eur-Lex, Process and Players, 1.1.3" [13], "To quote from the Eur-lex website ..." [14], etc. etc.

This isn't even language-specific:
"Kilder: Den Store Danske of Eur-lex"[15][16], "La possibilità di rivedere i trattati istitutivi, spiega ‘Eur-Lex’, è fondamentale per l’Unione europea (UE)" [17], "Traité sur le fonctionnement de l’Union européenne : article 86 - Eur-Lex" [18], "В официальном журнале Евросоюза Eur-Lex в субботу" [19], "über Eur-Lex, einfache Suche mit Jahr und Nummer" [20], "el portal jurídico plurilingüe «Eur-lex» de la Unión Europea" [21], etc.

And other stylizations show up, e.g. "EUR-LEX" [22][23][24], while sources are sometimes inconsistent even in the same document ("Eur-Lex, 1999 ... EUR-Lex, 1992" [25]).

When the reliable sources do not consistently apply an unusual stylization (including extraneous capitalization), Wikipedia does not either.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ<  13:35, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Requested move 3 August 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:59, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

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Eur-Lex → EUR-Lex – The very significant majority of English-language reliable texts use EUR-Lex. While the prose presented above does list some sources, Google Ngrams shows that there are signficantly more sources using capitalised EUR than non-capitalised Eur. MOS:CAPS explicitly says that words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in a substantial majority of independent, reliable sources are capitalized in Wikipedia, which is the case here. Beyond that, EUR-Lex is a proper noun, not a common noun, meaning that standard sentence capitalisation doesn't necessarily apply in the same way as described in WP:NCCAPS, amongst other policies. There also doesn't seem to be any evidence that I could see that EUR is short for European, as the above suggests - it could very easily be an abbreviation for European Union Regulation. WP:OFFICIALNAME also is relevant here - in all other European Union sources, as well as on the EUR-Lex website proper, the site is referred to as EUR-Lex only (Publications Office of the European Union, N-Lex, Court of Justice of the European Union, European Parliament Observatory (see footer)...). ItsPugle (please use {{ping|ItsPugle}} on reply) 05:14, 3 August 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

• Support per nom. This seems to be another case of Wikipedia inventing its own capitalization for a proper name that's consistently capitalized by both the holder and other news sources, which is something we shouldn't modify. SnowFire (talk) 00:40, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

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