Talk:Englog/Archive 1

Hi, there are many Filipino Americans including Filipinos who live in Hawaii. Many send their kids back to the Philippines and their are not rich but middle class. A lot of them are not Spanish Mestizos. Some speak English at home with a mixture of Tagalog words. There also many Filipino Chinese who speak English in schools with a mixture of Tagalog. I've had many class mates since high school up to college who were Chinese and kids of Filipino Americans in the Philippines.

Since Konyo English refers to:
>Konyo or conyo is a neologism that refers to certain stereotyped affluent sectors of
>society. These people are often considered to be the rich kids who are not used to
>the sufferings of poorer people.

I would like to separate Englog into different articles.--Jondel 00:15, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Jondel, I think you have a point in that Englog needs to cover the mixed speech of Filipinos of other levels/classes. I don't think it warrants a separate article, though, for what would the new articles be called? I think it would be simpler to simply add another section into this article to cover the other types. --Ronaldo Guevara 07:59, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I didn't know that there was such a term as "Englog." I'm aware of "Taglish" but not Englog. I think Englog should just be merged with Taglish (Taglish/Englog), since in reality, when Filipinos refer to the konyo english, they use the term "Taglish" and not "Englog." I also think that it is important to include the connotations of talking in Taglish, including the perception that the language indicates a social standing above the lower classes. However, such a discussion should be more elaborate and include the fact that these social classes are more exposed to Western culture because of their access to TV (especially cable TV), the Internet, more Westenized and probably better education, and others. These factors make these social classes tend to use Taglish more than those in the lower classes. If such a discussion is possible, then I think it's justifiable to say that Taglish/Englog does reflect social standing among Filipinos.Moonwalkerwiz 05:54, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Konyo English

There are many filipino English speakers like the Filipino chinese and American chinese. Please stop portraying them as seperate from the mainstream filipino. What kind of a statement is this 'These people are often considered to be the rich kids who are not used to the sufferings of poorer people.' Is this an anti-rich article? --Jondel 00:42, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Marami talagang ganyan sa ’Pinas, yung mga tipong iri-reject ka as Filipino just because you speak English better than you do Tagalog. Ang kakapal no? Who says one needs to speak Tagalog or act or even look “Filipino” (kung paano man yon) in order to be Filipino? Anyway the offensive stuff seems to have been edited out so it’s cool.

Ok. i-archive ko na 'to. Parang ayaw nilang (-fellow pinoys in PI) magsalita ng english. Pero kahit balut vendor, mas magaling pang mag-English kay sa mga doctorate dito na hapon. Yung iba-ng hapon, sinasabi nilang hindi daw tayo marunong mag english kasi hindi daw 'native speaker.