Talk:Eastern Chalukya Empire

Kannada as a common language

@Cpt.a.haddock: Hi, It is a well-known fact that the Vengi kingdom captured by Pulikesi II, the renowned Kannada Chalukya emperor, was allotted to his younger brother Kubja Vishnuvardhana (meaning short/dwarf Vishnuvardhana in Kannada) for administration in 621 CE. He, however, started an independent dynasty from his lineage of successors. Please explain me the necessity to establish that Vishnuvardhana was a Kannada ruler which is very obvious. Thanks. — NitinBhargava2016 (talk) 15:03, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

@NitinBhargava2016: Firstly, you are not just saying that Vishnuvardhana was a Kannada speaker … Secondly, please keep in mind that Indians are not the only audience for these articles. And what is written here is what will be translated into multiple languages in different Wikipedias to audiences around the world. So, "fire is hot" is obvious. Vishnuvardhana and his descendants being Kannada speakers is not. Them "encouraging" Telugu is not. Please find a proper source for such statements. (Also, afaik, it was not Vishnuvardhana but his son who broke away.) Please also acquaint yourself with WP:INDICSCRIPTS. And on a different note, rather than peppering the English Wikipedia with Kannada script, please consider contributing to the Kannada Wikipedia. This article, for example, does not appear to have a kn.wikipedia.org equivalent. Even creating a stub might get things rolling. Thanks.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 16:35, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

@Cpt.a.haddock: If so, I've removed the Telugu Indic script too and added sourced material for influence of Kannada on Vengi Chalukyas. Please verify. Thanks. — NitinBhargava2016 (talk) 19:03, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

@NitinBhargava2016: Thanks. However, please note that "history files" is not a reliable source and should not be used. I suggest that you revert this edit (which duplicates large bits of the previous paragraph) and look to integrate Narasimhacharya (pp. 27,28) into the Literature section of the article in greater detail, perhaps in a subsection. Also FWIW, while Narasimhacharya is relatively fine, he is highly dated. Try to find a more recent reliable source. (This also applies to his use in Kalabhra dynasty and elsewhere. But that is a more obscure subject …) Please don't focus on only the Kannada bits and also expand any Telugu bits that you see and other parts of the article. Thanks.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 19:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

P.S. I don't see the bit about Gunake-Nalla meaning "good-natured" on p.46. Rather than this article, please create an article for Vijayaditya III and add it over there. Thanks.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 20:06, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

@Cpt.a.haddock: Edited as per your suggestions. I do not have access to Narasimhacharya (pp. 27,28). Thanks. — NitinBhargava2016 (talk) 08:45, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

@NitinBhargava2016: Hi, your last edit actually mixes up two different books. IMO, the Kannada connection has already been made and the "archaic locative suffix" in the Telugu inscription is unnecessary and does not really improve the article. Similarly, a random statement about Gunake-Nalla is out of place. As mentioned above, please create an article for him and include it in there. If you'd like to include it here, then please consider expanding the history section to be more comprehensive and include this titbit in a subsection on Vijayaditya III. Thanks.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 09:58, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

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