Talk:Dog Day Afternoon/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 19:34, 17 February 2021 (UTC) Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 19:34, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the review, and for your usual careful work reviewing citations. I'll go marking your requests as done, or providing further commentary as we go through the process.--GDuwenHoller! 21:14, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Infobox

• The film poster needs a better rationale (I suggest using the poster rationale template).

 Done

• Move Thomas Moore to after P. F. Kluge with {{Based on|"The Boys in the Bank"|P. F. Kluge and Thomas Moore}} since they both wrote the article.

 Done

• Also, is his name Thomas Moore or Thomas Mooreen (as seen in #Pre-production)?

 Fixed

• The poster usually serves as a source for the infobox, but Victor J. Kemper isn't mentioned so he needs a reference.

Kemper is mentioned a couple of times throughout the article: in the Production, Reception and Legacy sections. The story by Kluge and Moore is not mentioned in the poster either, but we have the mentions along the article.--GDuwenHoller! 20:45, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

• Running time needs a reference.

 Done

• It has already been established that the film was American so US$ isn't needed in the infobox.

 Fixed

• "US$3.5 to US$3.8 million" → "$3.5–$3.8 million"

 Fixed

• "US$50 million to US$56 million" → "$50–56 million"

 Fixed

• So is "US$" going to be changed to just "$"?

Lead

• Remove the comma after "directed by Sidney Lumet".

 Done

• Remove the comma after "written by Frank Pierson".

 Done

• "Upon release" → "Upon theatrical release"

 Done

• Remove the comma after "Golden Globe awards".

 Done

• "seven [[Golden Globe Award|Golden Globe]] awards" → "seven [[Golden Globe Awards]]"

 Done

Plot and cast

• Both these sections look good.

Background

The robbery

• Link John Wojtowicz and Salvatore Naturile (in case a reader skips through to #Background and needs the links).

 Done

• Also link John F. Kennedy International Airport.

 Done

• "The requested" → "They requested"

 Fixed

• "They requested" → "They also requested"

 Done

• "After fourteen hours" → "After more than fourteen hours" or "After fifteen hours"

Let's leave it at "After more than fourteen hours", all the sources I find really contradict themselves.--GDuwenHoller! 20:51, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

• A source is needed for the quote after "Aurichio recalled Eden told him".

I repeated the existing one, it's on the same page.--GDuwenHoller! 20:51, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Pre-production

• In the reference right after "their captors", the word "Boys" should be capitalized.

 Fixed

• The reference after "Serpico at the box office" needs a reference.

 Done

• "Serpico at the box office" → "Serpico (1973) at the box office" or "Serpico at the box office in 1973"

I like Serpico (1973).--GDuwenHoller! 21:11, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

• Randy Wicker is not mentioned in this source.

Oh, yea I mistook it with this one that is some kind of amalgam of two news pieces by different news wires the New Jersey Home News edited together. The examiner ran the piece of Newsday.  Fixed--GDuwenHoller! 21:11, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

• I think there's a rule on Wiki that says that every quote needs a reference right after the quotation marks so I would just cite the same source again after each "end-quote".

I don't see anything wrong with the citation being at the end of the phrase. I could only find on Wikipedia:Quotations that citations have to be provided. Do you have any other link of the MoS? In my estimation, if the quote can be found on the cited website/newspaper/book, it should be enough.--GDuwenHoller! 21:11, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

I think I found the rule at WP:UNSOURCED and WP:MINREF, which say to "attribute all quotations".

Let's better be on the safe side of the rule. I'll just go ahead and repeat the inline citation for each quote. I may be the type of reader that finds them bothersome and prefers it at the end of the phrase, but we can cover all bases.--GDuwenHoller! 19:04, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

• Change all quotation uses of "..." to "[...]", in this section and in #Production.

About that use, it is not clear to me which one is right. Two members of the GOCE worked on the article before I nominated it, and they changed the former [...]. I suppose they know something I don't.--GDuwenHoller! 21:11, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Production

• "bridges, beaches and neighborhoods" → "bridges, beaches, and neighborhoods"
• Remove the comma after "own clothes".
• "hotel those" → "hotel for those"
• "To amplify the effect in film" → "To amplify the effect in the film"
• Remove the comma after "lasted longer".
• Remove the comma after "centered on Pacino".

All  Fixed----GDuwenHoller! 20:51, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Release and reception

• "Village Voice" → "The Village Voice"
• "The Chicago Tribune" → "the Chicago Tribune"
• Don't put United Press International in italics since it's an agency.
• "Evening Sun" → "The Evening Sun"
• "Detroit Free Press" → "The Detroit Free Press"
• "The Miami Herald" → "The Miami Herald"
• "Atlanta Constitution" → "The Atlanta Constitution"
• "Montreal Gazette" → "The Montreal Gazette"

All  Fixed----GDuwenHoller! 20:52, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Lawsuits

• "her depiction on the film" → "her depiction in the film"
• "coauthor" → "a coauthor"
• "Wojtowicz filled" → "Wojtowicz filed"

All  Fixed----GDuwenHoller! 20:52, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Legacy

• "Vietnam war" → "Vietnam War"
• "Watergate scandal" → "the Watergate scandal"
• "two disc" → "two-disc"
• "tribute for Pierson's" → "tribute to Pierson's"

I made a slight modification to the phrase.--GDuwenHoller! 20:52, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

• Don't put Metacritic, Rotten Tomatoes, or AllMovie in italics.
• Update Rotten Tomatoes.
• "Allmovie" → "AllMovie"
• "San Francisco Chronicle" → "The San Francisco Chronicle"

All  Fixed----GDuwenHoller! 20:52, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

In popular culture

• Remove the colon after including.

 Fixed

Accolades

• The nominee for the British Academy Film Award for Best Film should be for the film, not the director.

 Fixed

• What makes the Online Film & Television Association notable for the list (it doesn't look official)?

Not sure what to make out of that award. I see it listed throughout Wikipedia (most of List of awards and nominations received by xx). I think though, it may be relevant enough. It appears in news pieces written the last few years, and a quick Google search reveals around 45,000 pages mentioning it.--GDuwenHoller! 21:02, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

• The nominee for the British Academy Film Award for Best Direction should be for the director, not the film.

 Fixed on the table too.--GDuwenHoller! 21:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

References

• Link all websites.
• Link all authors (such as Arthur Bell).
• Archive all archivable sources.

I linked as many of the publishers and authors as possible. About archiving the URLs, I took care of that last week manually on the internet archive.--GDuwenHoller! 19:54, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

• There is a reference with a typo ("Los Ageles Times"), so I would change it.

 Fixed----GDuwenHoller! 21:03, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

External links

• Remove the links to AllMovie, Box Office Mojo, and Rotten Tomatoes per WP:ELRC.

 Fixed----GDuwenHoller! 21:03, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Progress

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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