Talk:Depiction of masturbation

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This article needs to be expanded, wikified and generally cleaned up, so please help if you can do so! 210.50.56.32 (talk) 19:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Any line that uses the word "negative" (ie, all of them)...needs to be fixed or deleted Grsz11 (talk) 20:33, 18 February 2008 (UT

Well, no not all of them. Most have a brief desciption of the film's attitude to masturbation, whether positive or negative. If this is not neutral enough, it could be changed to being simply a list. 210.50.56.32 (talk) 20:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

The way the article is now, it is not NPOV. This should be a list in the other article, per the merge I proposed. Grsz11 (talk) 20:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I have cleaned up some of the opionated points, as per your recommendation. This article was created partly at my request as the main article was locked (presumably due to vandalism) and I (as an anonymous user) had some info to add. I am happy to have it merged into the main one if others agree, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.50.56.32 (talk) 20:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Please feel free to register for Wikipedia, then you can freely edit. Grsz11 (talk) 20:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Certainly, as simply not being able to edit does not justify a new article Grsz11 (talk) 20:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes but there is quite a bit of information there. I imagine if others contribute the sections on males in film and the literary references in particular can be expanded extensively. It would really depend if you just want a simple list of references or a detailed article discussing masturbation in art and popular culture in a lot of depth. Given the changing attitudes towards this topic, once clearly taboo in the west, I would think that quite an extensive article could be written. 210.50.56.32 (talk) 20:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Just to elaborate, I don't want this to just be a list so that a typical pervert can go shopping for the films that they want. They have websites like CNDB if they want that kind of information. Of course, putting this data into an encyclopedia, readers can use the information in anyway that they want but I would like to see a more detailed discussion of how attitudes to masturbation are reflected in popular culture and how they have changed over time. Hence my initial listing of "positive" and "negative" portrayals but since this is too opinionated, I have changed these to brief descriptions to let readers make up their own minds as to whether the film scenes are positive or not. 210.50.56.32 (talk) 20:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

But it does not need to list every known occurence. A few examples will suffice. Grsz11 (talk) 20:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe we should just leave it for a few days and see how the article evolves as other people contribute to it. After that, we can decide whether to merge or not, since it has only been in existence for less than a day so far! 210.50.56.32 (talk) 20:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)