Talk:Croque monsieur/Archive 1

Archive 1

Egg

Are croque monsieurs always dipped in egg? My recollection from Paris is that they are not. A french page illustrating the manufacture of croque messieurs as well as this english-language one also suggest this may not always be the case. Mpntod 21:21, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)

T'as bien raison, Martin! Et c'était bien dommage, ton résultat en mai... :( -- Picapica 4 July 2005 21:44 (UTC)

When I was in Paris, none of my croque monsieurs were dipped in egg. This should be struck from the article. At most, it should be mentioned as a variation. The photo I took of a croque monsieur I made is also not dipped in egg. Mbrewer 04:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

'Croque monsieur' or 'Croque-monsieur': why was this page moved?

Why did User:Kaihsu move this article from Croque monsieur to Croque-monsieur? Mbrewer 04:44, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Very good question. Should we move it back? Mpntod 08:20, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes. 'Croque-monsieur' should, in my opinion, redirect to 'Croque monsieur'. Rob cowie 14:23, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

I guess he did it because that's how it was referred to in the article title. Croque-monsieur appears to be the french form. Looking at various websites, the most common form in english is croque monsieur. Mpntod 17:41, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Picture

Might I suggest a picture that makes the croque monsieur looks more appetizing? I've eaten my fair share of them, and they're pretty tasty--that one doesn't look very good. Thyroidpsychic 00:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Egg

In regards to the egg on top, I've always heard that called a Croque Madame. It probably depends on subtle differences in the recipe or maybe just a regional name change. Thyroidpsychic 00:03, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

All the places I eat in France call the one with the egg on top a 'Croque Cheval'. Is that just my experience? Pimdip 21:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

If you actually eat places in France then the locals may call it a croque-cheval to honour your equine appetite. 217.44.141.43 13:09, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

At Versailles and elsewhere I ate in Paris, the ones with an egg on top were Croque Madame. Mbrewer 04:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm french and I never heard of anything such as croque-cheval. I confirm that a Croque-Madame is a croque-monsieur with an egg "à cheval", meaning "on top". By user Wikimuf.

McDonalds advertising

Am I the only one disturbed by the not so subliminal advertising message concerning McDonald's products? by Wikimuf. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikimuf (talk • contribs) 16:46, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Dutch link to tosti

A croque-monsieur is a tosti in dutch, because what we in dutch call a tosti must have both ham and cheese. However, someone removed the dutch link from croque-monsieur to tosti and this person placed it under cheese-sandwich. But a cheese-sandwich only has cheese and NOT ham. And a tosti without ham is in dutch not allowed to be called a tosti (it is then called: broodje gegrilde kaas). Therefor I've restored the dutch language link for croque-monsieur to tosti and I've removed it from cheese-sandwich. Saratje86 (talk) 19:51, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Cheese on top

I've traveled in France a number of times and in my experience a normal croque-monsieur has the melted cheese on top, as shown in the photo. I've encountered them on French-language menus in Belgium and/or Switzerland as well, but in at least one of those countries, the cheese is inside, making the sandwich into what I (as a North American) would call an ordinary "grilled cheese with ham" (or "grilled ham and cheese").

Something like this, properly confirmed by actual sources or at least local knowledge, should go into the article. --50.100.193.30 (talk) 22:36, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

More than just cheese on top I have frequently found croque-monsieurs both in the US (and a few that I saw in France) also include either bechamel or a mornay on top, which is then broiled. The pages for those sauces both link into croque-monsieur. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.86.108 (talk) 17:15, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Garbled and unreadable

In addition to the nonsense about Butter Bread (see below) that someone seems very hung up on, the "preparation" and "variation" are a jumble of edit warring, non-english and stuff that belongs in other sections or not at all.

Preparation should be the original french recipe(s) with references and without meandering discussions Variations should probably read "international variations" and should actually show some sort of connection or inspiration linking to the Croquet Monsieur, with a reference to support it. We have a mixture of variations, similar dishes and things that are just other people's way of messing about with a ham and cheese sandwich.

I came here because I was unsure about the difference between a Croquet Monsieur and a Monte Cristo, the article's attempt to explain that is poor and contradictory, I feel dumber having read it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 13:01, 18 August 2020 (UTC) (talk) 82.217.22.199 (UTC)