Talk:Cretornis

Latest comment: 9 years ago by MWAK in topic Hlavaci or hlavatschi?

Hlavaci or hlavatschi? edit

Article 33.2.3.1.: when an unjustified emendation is in prevailing usage and is attributed to the original author and date it is deemed to be a justified emendation might be a justification of the hlavatschi spelling but is such a usage proven for this particular case?--MWAK (talk) 20:16, 23 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

This article only has two sources, both of which use the spelling hlavaci. Not sure where "hlavatschi" comes from but I think we need to use hlavaci or else it's OR. I'll make the change. Dinoguy2 (talk) 11:51, 24 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
As I understand it, the hlavatschi was an attempt by Richard Lydekker in 1888 to improve the original Cretornis Hlavači. The diacritical sign had to go, but simply replacing it with a "c" would have ruined the pronunciation, so Lydekker germanised it into hlavatschi. Frič, whose name for related reasons was often germanised into Fritsch, himself in 1905 used Ornithocheirus hlavaci. But I haven't read Averianov's 2015 article yet, so I don't know whether he provides any additions or corrections to this story.--MWAK (talk) 13:56, 24 March 2015 (UTC)Reply
Come to think of it, the original description is rather minimal, Frič indicating he intended to study the specimen in more detail after he had received Marsh's monograph on Cretaceous birds, so perhaps Cretornis Hlavači was considered a nomen nudum.--MWAK (talk) 07:08, 25 March 2015 (UTC)Reply