Talk:Cooling out

Academic

This page was created as part of the required coursework for ENG 468, "Common Knowledge and Cultural Capital," a graduate level course in literary theory at Roosevelt University in Chicago, IL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustinflick (talk • contribs) 23:57, 6 April 2010‎

That's unfortunate. As a graduate course product, it would be expected that the students could define the term. As it is, I give them and the instructor at Roosevelt University an F. Now the students have moved on and we're stuck with the stale detritus. The Dissident Aggressor 05:33, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Unnecessary Quotes

The term does not need to be placed in air quotes in order to signify the informal nature of the cooling out process. Quotes should be reserved for material that is being quoted. Air quotes or false quotes are the equivalent of writing "in my opinion" after a controversial statement. If other users feel the need to elaborate on the informal nature or lack of recognition of cooling out then perhaps they could create a new section that explores this side of the issue rather than altering the historical section to fit with the politically correct party lines of American community colleges.

Multiple Issues

• This article is written in a style that I do not believe is suitable for Wikipedia. It is written more like an essay than a Wikipedia article.

• The section "Cooling Out Today" speaks specifically about Illinois, and, generally, seems to have an Illinois bias. From the comment at the top of this page, I assume this is because it was written for a class in Illinois.

• I find the notability of this topic questionable, due in large part to the reliance on a small number of sources.

• There is far too much paraphrasing and direct quotation of copyrighted material.

Blelbach (talk) 07:15, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

• I'd say it has serious NPOV issues as well- the article seems to suggest that cooling out is inherently bad, when honestly, if a student genuinely can't achieve what they aim to, then encouraging them to aim lower is a good thing. ( it might be better for the article to include sections for the advantages of the practice, and of the disadvantages of the practice instead of vague mention of how factors other than academic ability may be being used (for example, is there evidence about motivations for encouraging poorer students to aim lower- is it worry about the student being able to afford the cost of a bachelor's degree, or is it a form of bias against poor people? Is there evidence of cooling out being used to discourage people of colour and/or women from pursuing certain ambitions, or is it more that a lack of knowledge about the pressures of a degree course mean they are more likely to have unrealistic expectations?

Sstabeler (talk) 09:37, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

What is it?

Also, the summary does not actually summarize what Cooling Out is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blelbach (talk • contribs) 07:17, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

This article still doesn't even say what Cooling out is. WP:TNT? The Dissident Aggressor 18:58, 11 October 2015 (UTC)