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Refs etcEdit

Lots of good recent edits. Some reservations though:

  • Refs would be better done as inline refs, using Wiki markup (I've roughly converted the first one).
  • Links in refs need to be to pages which are universally accessible: at the moment many are to full texts from online periodicals which are only accessible after paying a fee. Links would be better made to abstracts, which are free.
  • Care needs to be taken to avoid over-reliance on single studies, and drawing over-general conclusions. If one study suggests something, we can't necessarily state that as a firm conclusion. For example, some studies have indeed suggested that breed choice has limited effect on the results of conservation grazing, and this may well be true for some habitats. However, we cannot say from this alone that breed does not matter, as many other studies have suggested the opposite. For some habitats, such studies are hardly needed – for example my British White cattle thrive on heathland winter grazing, but many other cattle breeds will hardly even eat heather and certainly cannot survive on it. Conversely on lush grassland habitats breed type will make much less difference. Incidentally the experience of individual animals is often very important, and should be included somewhere in the article.
  • Some of the new material is rather US-centred (but then my own first stab was rather UK-centred...). For example "European non-native species" has a very different meaning from US and UK perspectives.

Richard New Forest (talk) 21:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

It would seem that the editor is a newbie, so I made some suggestions like the wiki-style footnotes already. I'll try and convert them myself when I get a some time later. As for the tone/conclusions, I think the reason it reads that way is because they wrote it in an essay style (note the Conclusion section I removed already). If we can convert it to a more encyclopedic format and style, it'll probably be better. (Thanks for your attention on the article Richard.) I also re-added in some news refs that were removed, but those are pretty U.S.-centric as well. I'll look for some Australian and/or European work as well. Steven Walling (talk) 23:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
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