Talk:Clan Mackinnon

Table

Table needs to be wikified (its so much shorter and easier to read and edit) Fresheneesz 21:48, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

renaming Clan MacKinnon to Clan Mackinnon

I think the article should be renamed to Clan Mackinnon (small "k"). The chief's name is this way - "Madam Anne Gunhild Mackinnon of Mackinnon, 38th Chief of the Name and Arms of Mackinnon", the clan is listed this way on the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs site [1], same in Moncrieffe's The Highland clans.--Celtus (talk) 09:48, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Done.--Celtus (talk) 08:04, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Big K little k

I believe that Clan MacKinnon should be spelled with a big K. The Clan MacKinnon society spells it with a big K (http://www.cmksna.org/). Clan MacKinnon Atlantic does the same (http://www.clanmackinnonatlantic.org/). In addition so does The MacKinnon Organization (http://www.mackinnon.org/). If whomever does the editing for this article feels this is just an argument that will go back and forth, can there at least be a note describing the alternative spelling. Thank you very much, C* — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.6.87 (talk) 22:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Despite clan societies using a big K it is more correct to the English language to use a little k. Using a big K is a common mistake that was corrected in all of the Scottish clan articles on Wikipedia a few years ago.QuintusPetillius (talk) 19:18, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Just reading this for the 1st time here on Sunday June 30th 2013.

I can state my last name is spelled Mackinnon. I know this goes back many generations in this branch of my family..  

184.20.207.120 (talk) 01:43, 1 July 2013 (UTC)Signed, James Kenneth Mackinnon184.20.207.120 (talk) 01:43, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Chief

Removed this line - "Clan Mackinnon does not have a currently recognised chief according to the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs." as it contradicts both the two sentences before it. Kiltpin (talk) 13:20, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Battle of Culloden & MacKinnon Participation

In spite of a few works which state otherwise, it does not appear that the MacKinnon regiment was actually present at Culloden on the day of the battle. It had been detached, along with others, and placed under the Earl of Cromartie's command north of Inverness. It was there to offer assistance to a Jacobite force which had been thoroughly defeated at Tongue and to also do what damage it could to the Earl of Sutherland's estates. The force stayed in the area until it was recalled to Inverness two days prior to Culloden. On the way south the Jacobites were attacked by two Independent Companies, one Sutherland and one Mackay, which routed them. Most of Cromartie's regiment was captured and ultimately Cromartie himself. From accounts of their later activities, it appears that the MacKinnons were not with the main body of Cromartie's force. They returned to Prince Charles's army after Culloden and proceeded to the rallying point at Ruthven Barracks where they were ordered to disband and return home. Not being at Culloden undoubtedly save the lives of many of the 200 Highlanders in the regiment. The regiment itself had served extremely well and had a long record of being in the fore from earliest time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:1226:E059:1C94:983A:C633:FC43 (talk) 23:05, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

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Correct Capitalisation

I can see this has been discussed above, but as far as I can find from sources it is currently incorrect. Every accessible single source and external link in the article capitalises the K. The only use of the small k appears to stem from this article itself. Obviously there are are people who spell it both ways, but it appears that the majority accepted way is with a capital K. The two prior discussions above appear incorrect now, as the first source is no longer available and the second states that all clan pages were amended to lowercase (which is clearly no longer the case from browsing other clan pages), and a quote from someone who spells their name with a lowercase k. If it helps, I can counteract that with my own quote stating I spell my name with a capital K (but neither I or the other person should be sourced because 'Well I spell my name that way so the Wikipedia should do the same', it should be based on sources - which in this case all capitalise).

Unless anyone provides sources otherwise, I'm happy to make the changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Random2502 (talk • contribs) 11:18, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

The lower case k is more correct because it’s only there as a result of the now defunct spelling of Mack as opposed to Mac, it is essentially redundant. You might as well capitalise the c in Mac. Please learn about the Gaelic origins of your surname and the correct pronunciation, that will clear everything up for you. 51.37.125.104 (talk) 14:11, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Cormaic m. Airbheartaigh ancestor of MacKinnons ?

Cormaic m. Airbheartaigh From Cormaic m. Airbheartuigh descend the following families within the MS1467:

MacKenzie of Kintail MacLennan of Kintail area Gillander/Ross (of Clan Gille Ainnrias) MacGregor MacDuffie MacPhee MacMillan MacKinnon (abbots of Iona) MacQuarries O'Beollain/MacBollan (as Green Abbots of Applecross) MacNab (as Green Abbots)

Steer and Bannerman in the 1970s found a second inscription, hidden from public view) on the tomb marker of Gille-Brigde MacKinnon, which read "+ HIC ICAET. FINGONE. MAC CARMAIC. ET FIN/LAID MAC. FINGONE. ET EOGAN." This has been deemed to confirms part of the MS1467 pedigree for the MacKinnon: Niall m. Gille Brighde m. Eogan m. Gille Brighde m. Old Eoghan m. Finlay m. Finnghuine from whom are the MacKinnons m. Cormac m. Airbheartach m. Murchadh m. Feachar Og. i.e, this portion of the pedigree: Gille Brighde m. Old Eoghan m. Finlay m. Finnghuine from whom are the MacKinnons m. Cormac

Airbertach is said to have live about the time of Somerled (d.1164) based on his position in the MacKinnon pedigree, hence Cormac founder of all the above lines would like died at the end of 12th century.

The historian Donald Gregory identifies the first authentic record of clan McKInnon as being found in the 1354 indenture between John of Islay, Lord of the Isles and the Lord of Lorn. In the indenture, Lorn agreed to hand over the Isle of Mull and other lands, if the castle of Cairn na Burgh, located on Cairn na Burgh Mòr in the Treshnish Isles, was not delivered into the keeping of any of Clan Finnon.

Within MacFirbis transcription of the MacMillan pedigree it contains the following: "Cormaic m. Airbheartuigh reamhraite; as é an tAirbeartach sin do aitreabh da trebh dég i fFionnlochlannuibh (?) .i. Greagraidh (?) na nGaisgeadhach, dar comainm Muil<e>, agus Tír <no Tiri> <nó Tire> Aodha, agus Cruibhinis <no Craoibhinis>."

Translated as: "Cormac s. Airbheartach aforesaid; it was that Airbheartach who settled twelve households in Fionnlochlainn, i.e. Greagraidh na nGaisceadhach, which was also named Muile, and Tír (or Tíre) Aodha and Cruibhinis (or Craoibhinis). (Airbheartach's control over twelve households makes he a minor noble in Gaelic Society.)

It seems possiblegiven the geographical location of Airbheartach holding that he was an ancestor the MacKinnon. However could the sons of Cormac m. Airbheartaigh, originating in Mull at the end of the 12th century, be responsible for other clans that the MS1467 pedigrees are supposed to represent?

"Saucy Mary"

In the Myth and legend section of the article it reads: 'built by a Norwegian princess known as Saucy Mary, who married Findanus the claimed ancestor of Clan Mackinnon'. I presume this is a joke, or is this a genuine mistranslation? Can someone please confirm this Lord Farquharson (talk) 16:27, 21 November 2022 (UTC)